It Feels Like The Start Of A Mini Ice Age

[futurecurrents]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

It's amazingly idiotic to argue that 200 years of data has any merit considering the planet is nearly 5 billion years old, has had multiple and dramatic climate shifts over eons of time, most occuring when no humans at all populated the planet, some more recent, but no emissions at all during those past changes, and then fail to even consider that other forces may have a larger impact on the climate in general. Only a blindly partisan fool could be duped into believing this non-sense, or a snake oil salesman like Comrade Al looking for profit.
The climate is changing. Duh! To date there is zero evidence that man made substances are the determining factor this time around. None at all. Just another piece of the puzzle, and a small piece at that.

It's amazingly idiotic to argue that a 37% increase of the dominant greenhouse gas would NOT result in a rise in temps. Only a blindly partisan fool would still deny it in the face of overwhelming scientific consensus and just plain common sense. Of course Republicans have very little understanding of science or common sense. Everything is a commie plot in their little minds.

The climate IS changing, and there is obvious evidence that it is due to the increase of the greenhouse gas CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from Lucrum:

So what if it is? It does not prove your argument.
As has been pointed out repeatedly.

Are you saying that CO2 is greenhouse gas?

Yes, just as if gravity were to increase you would not weigh more. No proof of gravity there. None at all.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from futurecurrents:

Are you saying that CO2 is greenhouse gas?

Yes, just as if gravity were to increase you would not weigh more. No proof of gravity there. None at all.

I used to think your "logic" was just fucked up. It has just occurred to me though that you have no logic, fucked up or otherwise.

 

[pspr]

CONCLUSION

On this assessment, the evidence points to a current natural climate change which happens sequentially in two main climate periods, icehouse and warmhouse.

It also reveals the succession of four natural climate phases known as transgression, highstand, regression and lowstand. The transgression phase consists of a rising Sea Level, flooding continental areas. Highstand is a phase where the marine level remains relatively stable but oscillating into the transgression phase. The regression phase consists of a gradual diminution of the marine level, leaving a greater area of the continents uncovered. The phase of Lowstand consists of a permanence of low marine level. Currently, the Earth is passing through a lowstand phase, which will revert to Transgression phase. The succession of these phases show the Earth is cooling.

At the moment, the area of continental flood is almost 7%; according to climatic succession, we expect the area of continental flood to increase to almost 10%, but never so massive that it will put human populations in danger, as the IPCC has taken to suggesting almost every day. Allow me to clarify that most of the claims regarding catastrophic climate change filling the newspapers are overblown and based on data that is being arbitrarily exaggerated to blame humanity for climatic changes which are absolutely natural.

http://www.biocab.org/carbon_dioxide_geological_timescale.html

 

[CaptainObvious]

Quote from futurecurrents:

It's amazingly idiotic to argue that a 37% increase of the dominant greenhouse gas would NOT result in a rise in temps. Only a blindly partisan fool would still deny it in the face of overwhelming scientific consensus and just plain common sense. Of course Republicans have very little understanding of science or common sense. Everything is a commie plot in their little minds.

The climate IS changing, and there is obvious evidence that it is due to the increase of the greenhouse gas CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels.

Commie plots are easy to identify. They all begin and end with some type of tax to control behavior. Junk science is also easy to see. They talk it absolutes where multiple factors are ignored if they don't support the predetermined conclusion.
You are right about one thing. The climate is changing and it doesn't take a PHD to figure that out. Apparently it does take a PHD to think that a tax will fix it. A PHD in political bullshiting. A PHD in ignoring the pollution that Russia, China and India spew out. Carry on Comrade. You have found the opiate for your unwashed masses to worship.

 

[jem]

lies by fc... not facts.

1. Show us how virtually all the worlds climate scientists say CO2 is causing the warming.

2. 90% of the warming occurs after the the warming began at the poll.
CO2 release is a by product of the warming. cite your article. learn something.

3. The latest temperature record. You mean the one which shows we have not been warming for 16 years contrary to the models. A fact I proved to you with the climate gate emails.

Quote from futurecurrents:

You are so annoyingly ignorant. Why don't you try thinking?

Actually, during my studies of environmental science thinking in systems is SOP. OTOH Lawyering is more interested in playing with words, distorting facts and generally trying to win a argument rather than find the truth. You're doing a job with that.


Ah my crooked friends. Do you mean virtually all the world's climate experts? LOL LOL LOL

Yes, it's also speculation that gravity will cause things to fall. LOL

You still don't seem to understand. The latest record temperatures can only be explained by the extra CO2.

To learn more...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm

"Overall, more than 90% of the glacial-interglacial warming occurs after the atmospheric CO2 increase "

 

[pspr]

FC, CO2 is not the dominant green house gas. Get a clue, man.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

Commie plots are easy to identify. They all begin and end with some type of tax to control behavior. Junk science is also easy to see. They talk it absolutes where multiple factors are ignored if they don't support the predetermined conclusion.
You are right about one thing. The climate is changing and it doesn't take a PHD to figure that out. Apparently it does take a PHD to think that a tax will fix it. A PHD in political bullshiting. A PHD in ignoring the pollution that Russia, China and India spew out. Carry on Comrade. You have found the opiate for your unwashed masses to worship.

I see. You view science through a political peephole.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from pspr:

CONCLUSION

On this assessment, the evidence points to a current natural climate change which happens sequentially in two main climate periods, icehouse and warmhouse.

It also reveals the succession of four natural climate phases known as transgression, highstand, regression and lowstand. The transgression phase consists of a rising Sea Level, flooding continental areas. Highstand is a phase where the marine level remains relatively stable but oscillating into the transgression phase. The regression phase consists of a gradual diminution of the marine level, leaving a greater area of the continents uncovered. The phase of Lowstand consists of a permanence of low marine level. Currently, the Earth is passing through a lowstand phase, which will revert to Transgression phase. The succession of these phases show the Earth is cooling.

At the moment, the area of continental flood is almost 7%; according to climatic succession, we expect the area of continental flood to increase to almost 10%, but never so massive that it will put human populations in danger, as the IPCC has taken to suggesting almost every day. Allow me to clarify that most of the claims regarding catastrophic climate change filling the newspapers are overblown and based on data that is being arbitrarily exaggerated to blame humanity for climatic changes which are absolutely natural.

http://www.biocab.org/carbon_dioxide_geological_timescale.html

Ummm no. The recent record temperatures are due to CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels. It is NOT natural.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from jem:

lies by fc... not facts.

1. Show us how virtually all the worlds climate scientists say CO2 is causing the warming.

2. 90% of the warming occurs after the the warming began at the poll.
CO2 release is a by product of the warming. cite your article. learn something.

3. The latest temperature record. You mean the one which shows we have not been warming for 16 years contrary to the models. A fact I proved to you with the climate gate emails.

1) Virtually all the worlds climate experts attribute most of the current high temps to CO2 from man. The fact that you can't admit that is not my problem. Try reading.

2) Yes CO2 is a greenhouse gas. When it is released the temps go up. Glad to see you admit this.

3) We are still warming. There is no change in trend. Climate change is not measured in such small increments. If you use any other time span than 16 years the warming rate is very high. The 16 year time span is chosen by denier morons because 16 years ago there was record high. You're an idiot to keep repeating this bullshit and think it strengthens your argument. In fact it makes you even stupider. Look up the term "cherry picked points on a chart".