Israeli military aid to Burmese regime: Jane's

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Israeli military aid to Burmese regime: Jane's
Sunday, September 30 2007 @ 08:34 AM PDT
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The Burmese junta currently shooting unarmed protestors received a cynical plea for restraint from the Israel government on Sept. 29. According to the Israeli paper Ha'aretz, the Israeli foreign ministry announced "Israel is concerned by the situation in Myanmar, and urges the government to demonstrate restraint and refrain from harming demonstrators." The article ended by pointing out that "Israel denies selling weapons to Burma or Myanmar." (Ha'aretz, Sept. 29)

Not true, according a March 1, 2000 report in the authoritative British publication Jane's Intelligence Review by William Ashton.

Israeli military aid to Burmese regime: Jane's

by David Bloom
Sat, 09/29/2007

The Burmese junta currently shooting unarmed protestors received a cynical plea for restraint from the Israel government on Sept. 29. According to the Israeli paper Ha'aretz, the Israeli foreign ministry announced "Israel is concerned by the situation in Myanmar, and urges the government to demonstrate restraint and refrain from harming demonstrators." The article ended by pointing out that "Israel denies selling weapons to Burma or Myanmar." (Ha'aretz, Sept. 29)

Not true, according a March 1, 2000 report in the authoritative British publication Jane's Intelligence Review by William Ashton. The article, titled "Myanmar and Israel develop military pact," details how Israeli companies and the Israeli government have been supplying and developing weapons for the Burmese regime, and sharing intelligence:

In August 1997 it was revealed that the Israeli defence manufacturing company Elbit had won a contract to upgrade Myanmar's (then) three squadrons of Chinese-built F-7 fighters and FT-7 trainers. The F-7 is a derivative of the Mikoyan MiG-21 'Fishbed' jet fighter. The FT-7 is the export version of the GAIC JJ-7, itself a copy of the MiG-21 'Mongol-B' trainer. Since they began to be delivered by China in 1991, the Myanmar Air Force has progressively acquired about 54 (or four squadrons) of these aircraft, the latest arriving at Hmawbi air base only last year. In related sales, the air force has also acquired about 350 PL-2A air-to-air missiles (AAM) from China and at least one shipment of the more sophisticated PL-5 AAMs.

Since their delivery to Myanmar, these new aircraft have caused the air force considerable problems. Several aircraft (and pilots) have already been lost through accidents, raising questions about the reliability of the Chinese technology. There have also been reliable reports that the F-7s were delivered without the computer software to permit the AAMs to be fired in flight. Also, the air force has complained that the F-7s are difficult to maintain, in part reflecting major differences between the structure and underlying philosophy of the Myanmar and Chinese logistics systems. Spare parts have been in very short supply. In addition, the air force seems to have experienced difficulties in using the F-7 (designed primarily for air defence) in a ground attack role. These, and other problems, seem to have prompted the air force to turn to Israel for assistance.

According to sources in the international arms market, 36 of Myanmar's F-7 fighters are to be retro-fitted with the Elta EL/M- 2032 air-to-air radar, Rafael Python 3 infrared, short range AAMs, and Litening laser designator pods. The same equipment will also be installed on the two-seater FT-7 fighter trainers. In a related deal, Israel will also sell Myanmar at least one consignment of laser-guided bombs. Since the Elbit contract was won in 1997, the air force has acquired at least one more squadron of F-7 and FT-7 aircraft from China, but it is not known whether the Israeli-backed upgrade programme will now be extended to include the additional aircraft. Myanmar's critical shortage of foreign exchange will be a major factor in the SPDC's decision.

The army has also benefited from Myanmar's new closeness to Israel.

As part of the regime's massive military modernisation and expansion programme, considerable effort has been put into upgrading the army's artillery capabilities. In keeping with its practice of never abandoning any equipment of value, the army clearly still aims, as far as possible, to keep older weapons operational. (Pakistan, for example, has recently provided Myanmar with ammunition for its vintage 25 pounder field guns). The older UK, US and Yugoslav guns in the Tatmadaw's [Myanmar Armed Forces] inventory have been supplemented over the past 10 years with a range of new towed and self-propelled artillery pieces. Purchased mainly from China, they include 122mm howitzers, anti-tank guns, 57mm Type 80 anti-aircraft guns, 37mm Type 74 anti-aircraft guns and 107mm Type 63 multiple rocket launchers. In a barter deal brokered by China last year, the SPDC has also managed to acquire about 16 130mm artillery pieces from North Korea. Despite all this new firepower, however, the army has still looked to Israel to help equip its new artillery battalions.

Around 1998 Myanmar negotiated the purchase of 16 155mm Soltam towed howitzers, possibly through a third party like Singapore. These guns are believed to be second-hand pieces no longer required by the Israel Defence Force. Last year, ammunition for these guns (including high explosive and white phosphorous rounds) was ordered from Pakistan's government ordnance factories. Before the purchase of these new Chinese and North Korean weapons, Myanmar's largest artillery pieces were 105mm medium guns, provided by the USA almost 40 years ago. Acquiring the Israeli weapons thus marks a major capability leap for Myanmar's army gunners. It is possible that either Israel or Pakistan has provided instructors to help the army learn to use and maintain these new weapons.

Nor has the Myanmar Navy missed out on Israeli assistance. There have been several reports that Israel is playing a crucial role in the construction and fitting out of three new warships, currently being built in Yangon.

Myanmar's military leaders have long wanted to acquire two or three frigates to replace the country's obsolete PCE-827 and Admirable- class corvettes, decommissioned in 1994, and its two 1960s-vintage Nawarat-class corvettes, which have been gradually phased out since 1989. As military ties with China rapidly grew during the 1990s, the SLORC hoped to buy two or three Jiangnan- or even Jianghu-class frigates, but it could not afford even the special 'friendship' prices being asked by Beijing. As a compromise, the SPDC has now purchased three Chinese hulls, and is currently fitting them out as corvettes in Yangon's Sinmalaik shipyard.
 
According to reliable reports, the three vessels will each be about 75m long and displace about 1,200 tons. Despite a European Community embargo against arms sales to Myanmar, the ships' main guns are being imported (apparently through a third party) from Italy. Based on the information currently available, they are likely to be 76mm OTO Melara Compact guns, weapons which (perhaps coincidentally) have been extensively combat-tested by the Israeli Navy on its Reshef- class fast attack missile patrol boats. The corvettes will probably also be fitted with anti-submarine weapons, but it is not known what, if any, surface-to-surface and SAMs the ships will carry.

Israel's main role in fitting out the three corvettes is apparently to provide their electronics suites. Details of the full contract are not known, but it is expected that each package will include at least a surface-search radar, a fire-control radar, a navigation radar and a hull-mounted sonar.

The first of these warships will probably be commissioned and commence sea trials later this year.

Only sales or a strategic imperative?

While Myanmar remains a pariah state, subject to comprehensive sanctions by the USA and European Community, it is unlikely that Israel will ever admit publicly to having military links with the Tatmadaw. Until it does, the reasons for Israel's secret partnership with the Yangon regime will remain unclear. A number of factors, however, have probably played a part in influencing policy decisions in Tel Aviv.

There is clearly a strong commercial imperative behind some of these ventures. From a regional base in Singapore, with which it shares a very close relationship, Israel has already managed to penetrate the lucrative Chinese arms market. It is now aggressively seeking new targets for sales of weapons and military equipment in the Asia- Pacific. These sales are sometimes supported by offers of technology transfers and specialised advice. This approach has led to fears among some countries that Israel will introduce new military capabilities into the region which could encourage a mini arms race, as others attempt to catch up. The weapon systems being provided to the Myanmar armed forces are not that new, and the Asian economic crisis has dramatically reduced the purchasing power of many regional countries, but Israel's current activities in Myanmar will add to those concerns.

Given the nature of some of these sales, and other probable forms of military assistance to Myanmar, these initiatives would appear to enjoy the strong support of the Israeli government. In addition to the ever-present trade imperative, one reason for this support could be a calculation by senior Israeli officials that closer ties to Myanmar could reap diplomatic and intelligence dividends. For example, Myanmar is now a full member of the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN) which, despite the economic crisis, is still a major force in a part of the world which has received much closer attention from strategic analysts since the end of the Cold War. Israel's regional base will remain Singapore, but it is possible that Tel Aviv believes Myanmar can provide another avenue for influence in ASEAN, and a useful vantage point from which to monitor critical strategic developments in places like China and India.

In particular, Israel is interested in the spread of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, and the transfer of technologies related to the development of ballistic and other missiles. Myanmar has close military relations with China and Pakistan, both of which have been accused of transferring sensitive weapons technologies to rogue Islamic states, such as Iran. Myanmar is also a neighbour of India, another nuclear power that has resisted international pressure to curb its proliferation activities. Yangon could thus be seen by Israel as a useful listening post from which to monitor and report on these countries.

Also, despite accusations over the years that Myanmar has developed chemical and biological weapons, and more convincing arguments that Israel has a sizeable nuclear arsenal of its own, both countries share an interest in preventing the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Myanmar's support for anti-proliferation initiatives, in multilateral forums like the UN General Assembly and the Committee on Disarmament, would seem to be worth a modest investment by the Israeli government in bilateral relations with the SPDC. In addition to training Myanmar agriculturalists in Israel, assisting the Tatmadaw to upgrade its military capabilities seems a sure way of getting close to the Yangon regime.

Israel's repeated denial of any military links with Myanmar are not unexpected. Israel has never liked advertising such ties, particularly with countries like Myanmar, South Africa and China, which have been condemned by the international community for gross abuses of human rights. Even Israel's very close military ties with Singapore are routinely denied by both sides. Yet there seems little room for doubt that, after the 1988 takeover, Israel did start to develop close links with the SLORC, which are continuing to grow under the SPDC. In these circumstances, it would be surprising if Israel was not still looking for opportunities to restore the kind of mutually beneficial bilateral relationship that was first established when both countries became independent modern states in 1948.

It is noteworthy that Elbit Systems is one of the Israeli companies involved in Myanmar. Elbit supplies electronics used in the separation wall that Israel is building illegally in the occupied Palestinian West Bank, enclosing up to 10% of Palestinian land on the "Israeli" side. It is ironic that Israel expresses concern about protestors being killed by the Burmese military it supplies, when Israel itself has killed ten Palestinians protesting the annexation of large sections of their farmland, and injured hundreds of others, including Israeli and international demonstators, who have been beaten, arrested and expelled by the Israeli military. (JPost, Sept. 5) Just today in the village of Bil'in in the West Bank, the Israeli military injured nine non-violent protestors, according to the International Middle East Media Center (IMEMC, Sept. 29)

That the Burmese military has fired into crowds recalls that a month into the second Palestinian intifada, before any armed attacks or shooting came from the Palestinian side, Israeli forces had fired 1.3 million bullets at Palestinians, according to Yitzhak Laor, an Israeli columnist who often writes for Ha'aretz:

A month after the Intifada began, four years ago, Major General Amos Malka, by then No. 3 in the military hierarchy, and until 2001 the head of Israeli military Intelligence (MI), asked one of his officers (Major Kuperwasser) how many 5.56 bullets the Central Command had fired during that month (that is, only in the West Bank). Three years later Malka talked about these horrific figures. This is what he said to Ha'aretz's diplomatic commentator, Akiva Eldar about the first month of the Intifada, 30 days of unrest, no terrorist attacks yet, no Palestinian shooting:

Kuperwasser got back to me with the number, 850,000 bullets. My figure was 1.3 million bullets in the West Bank and Gaza. This is a strategic figure that says that our soldiers are shooting and shooting and shooting. I asked: "Is this what you intended in your preparations?" and he replied in the negative. I said: "Then the significance is that we are determining the height of the flames." (Ha'aretz, 11.6.2004).

It was a bullet for every Palestinian child, said one of the officers in that meeting, or at least this is what the Israeli daily Maariv revealed two years ago, when the horrible figures were first leaked. It didn't much change "public opinion", neither here nor in the West, neither two years ago nor 4 months ago when Malka finally opened his mouth. It read as if it had happened somewhere else, or a long time ago, or as if it was just one version, a voice in a polyphony, hiding behind the principle theme: we, the Israelis are right, and they are wrong. (Counterpunch, Oct. 20, 2004)

See our last post on Burma. See our last post on Israel/Palestine.

http://ww4report.com/node/4491
 
This state is making fun of the world and insults their intelegence.


Israel urges Myanmar gov't to refrain from harming protesters

By Barak Ravid and Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondents and News Agencies

Israel is concerned by the situation in Myanmar, and urges the government to demonstrate restraint and refrain from harming demonstrators, the Foreign Ministry said Saturday in its first official statement on the unfolding crisis in the South East Asian country.

The ministry summoned Myanmar's ambassador to Israel last week to clarify reports that at least 13 anti-government protesters had been killed in his country.

The officials who met with the ambassador of Myanmar, also known as Burma, delivered a curt message stating that Israel is hoping that calm is renewed and that security forces do not employ violence against demonstrators.



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Israel "has no form of leverage to apply on Burma," a ministry official told Haaretz. Whereas some diplomats favor condemning Myanmar's treatment of demonstrators, others believe there is no reason for Israel to become involved.

Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, who is currently at the United Nations General Assembly in New York, has so far refrained from commenting on the subject.

"We're following the events and are trying to find out what's happening there," a senior Foreign Ministry official told Haaretz.

In 1994, a former Israeli ambassador to Myanmar, Uri Noi, told the Foreign Ministry that the embassy there should be shuttered. "There's no point carrying on with this sort of regime," Noi said.

Israel's relationship with Burma has deteriorated gradually over the past four decades, but the two countries enjoyed warmer ties after Burma gained independence in 1948 - the same year as Israel - up until the 1970s. Both countries achieved independence from the United Kingdom.

The main reason for not severing ties with Myanmar, Foreign Ministry officials say, is nostalgia. Burma was the first South Asian country to recognize Israel and establish diplomatic relations with Jerusalem. In 1961, Israel's first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, visited Burma and even spent some time at a Buddhist monastery.

Democratic rule ended with a military coup in 1962. Since then, Burma has been led by a military junta, which renamed the country Myanmar in 1989.

According to former officials in the Israel Defense Forces, by 1967 the two countries had weapons deals and military connections. Israel sold Burma 30 Spitfire airplanes and trained Burmese technicians. The Israel Defense Forces even sent a military attache to the capital, Rangoon, which was later renamed Yangon.

But the Six-Day War in 1967 changed the nature of the Israeli-Burmese relationship. Burma, as a member of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM), demanded Israel withdraw from Gaza, the West Bank and the Golan Heights.

Israel denies selling weapons to Burma or Myanmar.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/908066.html
 
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Funny, I didn't realize that the Jews were actually responsible for the unrest in Mynamar . . .
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Obviously you are the one who has an issue with Jews. Your effort to liken zionists to Jews is well noted. Many Jews would oppose Israel practices, including the author of this article. Obviously you won't want to hear any of that Jr.
 
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Obviously you are the one who has an issue with Jews. Your effort to liken zionists to Jews is well noted. Many Jews would oppose Israel practices, including the author of this article. Obviously you won't want to hear any of that Jr.
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THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE MENTION OF THE WORD ZIONISM OR ZIONISTS, IN THIS ARTICLE THAT YOU HAVE POSTED, nice try though . . .
 
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THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE MENTION OF THE WORD ZIONISM OR ZIONISTS, IN THIS ARTICLE THAT YOU HAVE POSTED, nice try though . . .
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I just discovered that you are stupider than I thought! Israel, my brilliant friend, is a zionist state. Please tell me you have enough brain cells to know that.
 
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Israel...is a zionist state.
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Actually you are wrong. Israel is a jewish state. Some call it a zionist entity though.

BTW Burma's primary trading partners are India, Thailand, China, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia Clearly Israel is not among them.

What's interesting is that the demonstrations in Burma started immediately after the 100% fuel hike the government imposed a few weeks ago. Why do you think wael the price of fuel went up in Myanmar? Could it possibly have anything to do with your arab brethren in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait getting rich?
 
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Actually you are wrong. Israel is a jewish state. Some call it a zionist entity though.

Wrong again!! Israel is hardly a Jewish state when two third of the Jewish people are enjoying their lives in their own countries. On the other hand, show me one Israeli Prime minister in that zionist entity who is not zionist. Show me one founder of this zionist entity who is not zionist.

BTW Burma's primary trading partners are India, Thailand, China, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia Clearly Israel is not among them.

You are still using wikipedia. You have no other credible source to back you up aside from this unreliable source. Shows how bankrupt all of your arguments are!

While I presented you with an article that is based on a document from the authoritative British publication Jane's Intelligence Review, you elected to supply me with a Mickey mouse piece from a Mickey mouse source.

What's interesting is that the demonstrations in Burma started immediately after the 100% fuel hike the government imposed a few weeks ago. Why do you think wael the price of fuel went up in Myanmar? Could it possibly have anything to do with your arab brethren in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait getting rich?

That question should be directed to the Burmese Junta who was trained and equipped militarily by your zionist entity and mossad.

It seems that you specialize in this sort of thing. At the time when the whole world opposed the atrocities carried by the white Afrikaner regime of south Africa, your zionist entity, once again, was the only one that supported them financially, logistically and militarily.
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You are still using wikipedia.
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Actually the data is coming from the CIA:

Exports - partners:
Thailand 49%, India 12.8%, China 5.3%, Japan 5.2% (2006)

Imports - partners:
China 34.6%, Thailand 21.8%, Singapore 16.2%, Malaysia 4.7%, South Korea 4.3% (2006)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/bm.html#Econ

And it's a well known and undisputed fact that the demonstrations started when the government of Burma hiked fuel prices and fuel prices go up all over the world because your greedy arab brethren in Sauidi Arabia, UAE and Kuwait are manipulating oil prices/supplies and ripping off the entire planet. The blood of Burma's demonstrators is on the hands of blood-sucking oil-rich arab countries and their supporters like you.
 
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