Israeli envoy accuses White House of orchestrating UN resolution and

[Tsing Tao]

Israel is flipping the bird to the Obama administration, who did not support Israel whatsoever.

Obama choose to support the Muslim enemies of Israel instead.

I get it, but where's the proof they have of the UN Resolution being Obama's creation?

Just seeing a lot of this shit about having evidence but never seeing any of the evidence. Granted, these claims come a lot from the left, but they also come from the right sometimes. It gets old.

 

[gwb-trading]

I get it, but where's the proof they have of the UN Resolution being Obama's creation?

Just seeing a lot of this shit about having evidence but never seeing any of the evidence. Granted, these claims come a lot from the left, but they also come from the right sometimes. It gets old.

Egypt originally introduced the resolution. After Trump called the president of Egypt the country withdrew the resolution at the U.N. The next day three other countries, pushed by the Obama adminstration, re-introduced the same resolution.

The Obama administration is clearly responsible for this U.N. resolution and is the most hostile administration in the history of our country to Israel - our only democratic ally in the Middle East.

 

[Zzzz1]

I guess @Tsing Tao was asking for evidence to support exactly this claim.

The next day three other countries, pushed by the Obama adminstration, re-introduced the same resolution.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Egypt originally introduced the resolution. After Trump called the president of Egypt the country withdrew the resolution at the U.N. The next day three other countries, pushed by the Obama adminstration, re-introduced the same resolution.

The Obama administration is clearly responsible for this U.N. resolution and is the most hostile administration in the history of our country to Israel - our only democratic ally in the Middle East.

I would agree that the Obama administration is probably the most hostile administration in history to Israel and that it would certainly be plausible for them to re-introduce this resolution. I'm just looking for a source on that assertion. Israel claims to have this evidence. Where is it?

 

[Tsing Tao]

I guess @Tsing Tao was asking for evidence to support exactly this claim.

Yeah. Or a source, or something. I mean, we can't go around laughing at the democrats for their accusations on Russia hacking the election and asking for proof, and then turn around and say Obama designed this resolution and there is proof, but not show it.

We can, I suppose, but it looks rather hypocritical.

 

[gwb-trading]

I would agree that the Obama administration is probably the most hostile administration in history to Israel and that it would certainly be plausible for them to re-introduce this resolution. I'm just looking for a source on that assertion. Israel claims to have this evidence. Where is it?

The source of the assertion can be found in the WRAL article I posted at the top of page 3 of this thread. It includes comments from the Israeli spokesman, David Keyes.

 

[Tsing Tao]

The source of the assertion can be found in the WRAL article I posted at the top of page 3 of this thread. It includes comments from the Israeli spokesman, David Keyes.

"We have ironclad information that emanates from sources in the Arab world and that shows the Obama administration helped craft this resolution and pushed hard for its eventual passage," David Keyes said. "We're not just going to be a punching bag and go quietly into the night."

He did not identify the Arab sources or say how Israel obtained the information. Israel has close security ties with Egypt, the original sponsor of last week's resolution who, as the lone Arab member of the Security Council, was presenting it at the Palestinians' request. Under heavy Israeli pressure, Egypt delayed the resolution indefinitely — but other members presented it for a vote a day later. Egypt ended up voting in favor of the measure.
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Ok, but that's really just his word that such exists. When I think of evidence, I think of how the US, once upon a time, showed evidence on how a missile originating from the Ukraine took down a commercial jet (through satellite imagery, etc). Just as an example.

Again, I - personally - believe what you're saying (what Keyes is saying) because it fits the pattern of behavior. It's just a belief, though.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Meanwhile, John Kerry plumbs new lows for the Obama administration with the soon-to-be immortal fuck-up "Israel can be Jewish or Democratic. Not Both."

LOL....what a thing to say...

 

[Zzzz1]

You left out the condition before that statement. It has to do with choosing the "one state" path. Then.... And it does make logical sense. Israel occupied Palestine decades ago and had no geographic nor historical grounds to claim it to be its land other than biblical and religious grounds.

Meanwhile, John Kerry plumbs new lows for the Obama administration with the soon-to-be immortal fuck-up "Israel can be Jewish or Democratic. Not Both."

LOL....what a thing to say...

 

[Tsing Tao]

You left out the condition before that statement. It has to do with choosing the "one state" path. Then.... And it does make logical sense. Israel occupied Palestine decades ago and had no geographic nor historical grounds to claim it to be its land other than biblical and religious grounds.

Adding in the line " if Israel rejects a two-state solution for peace with the Palestinian people," changes nothing. It was a ridiculous statement to make from the US Secretary of State, and he'll catch hell for it (he already is).