Israeli Air Strike on Syria

[dddooo]

Quote from WAEL012000:

you are using the Sinara as a reference? Not only you...your JPost is also doing that???
Sinara and Jpost and Haaretz, and CNN and BBC and all other media outlets all over the world. And Syria does not seem to be denying the claim either, does it. BTW what is Syria hiding from the rest of the world, how come it's not telling the world what target Israel attacked? And how come the only country in the world to have condemned the attack is North Korea. Bad bad Israel, the dear leader is displeased... I bet Israel is getting a pat on the back from the EU, UN and likely some arab regimes behind the scenes. In fact Xavier Solana had advance knowledge of the attack.

"Israel lost the war in the first three days," one US military expert said. "If you have that kind of surprise and you have that kind of firepower, you had better win. Otherwise, you're in for the long haul."
No one is claiming that it was a successful war for Israel or that Israel achieved their strategic goals. Nevertheless your previous claim that Israel had its ass handed to them by Hezbollah is simply silly. Hezbollah survived, nothing less and nothing more. It was devastated, it lost a lot of people, weapons, infrastructure, it lost Southern Lebanon, it's afraid to attack Israel again but it was not wiped out. Was it a great victory for Israel - of course not as the objectives of the war were not met. Did Hezbollah hand Israel its ass? Don't make me laugh.

Israel's army chief of staff maintained Friday that nearly 100 guerrillas had been killed in fighting that broke out July 12 when Hezbollah crossed into Israel and captured two Israeli soldiers. But military officials have privately lamented what they called the low number of Hezbollah casualties. Hezbollah itself reports only 11 dead.
Hezbollah's leadership claims that 250 of their fighters were killed in the conflict, while Israel estimated that its forces had killed 600 Hezbollah fighters. In addition, Israel claimed to have the names of 532 dead Hezbollah fighters. A UN official estimated that 500 Hezbollah fighters had been killed, and Lebanese government officials estimated that up to 500 had been killed. A Stratfor report cited "sources in Lebanon" as estimating the Hezbollah death toll at "more than 700... with many more to go", while British military historian John Keegan estimated the figure could be up to 1,000.

 

[dddooo]

Turkey provided Israel with intelligence on Syria prior to last week's alleged IAF flyover into the country, Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida claimed on Thursday.

According to the report, the country had a central role in delivering precise information regarding targets in Syria that were to be hit by Israeli planes. Further, the report claimed that the Israeli pilots were given authorization by the Turkish army to use its airspace in order to carry out the operation.

Sources told Al-Jarida that Turkish intelligence did not coordinate the move with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. "Coordination of the [release of information] occurred far away from the political echelon," it said.

The Israeli and Turkish armies share a strong relationship that has been felt through several joint exercises and weapons sales.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1189411398606&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

 

[WAEL012000]

Quote from dddooo:

Turkey provided Israel with intelligence on Syria prior to last week's alleged IAF flyover into the country, Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida claimed on Thursday.

According to the report, the country had a central role in delivering precise information regarding targets in Syria that were to be hit by Israeli planes. Further, the report claimed that the Israeli pilots were given authorization by the Turkish army to use its airspace in order to carry out the operation.

Sources told Al-Jarida that Turkish intelligence did not coordinate the move with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. "Coordination of the [release of information] occurred far away from the political echelon," it said.

The Israeli and Turkish armies share a strong relationship that has been felt through several joint exercises and weapons sales.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1189411398606&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

Buddy...Take my word for it. Nothing was hit! It was an attempt by the IAF to test the Syrian defenses and to locate them.

it is up to you to belive what you want. Think about it this way idiot...If Hezbullah launched SAM14 and SAM18 Guided missiles against your jets, what do you think Syria will launch.

Silly boy!

Emkum La tentak!!

 

[WAEL012000]

During the conflict:

159 Israeli citizens were killed; of those
43 civilians of Jewish, Arab, Christian and Muslim origin killed in rocket attacks
119 IDF soldiers killed in rocket attacks as well as in armed combat [2]
4,262 civilians were treated for injuries in hospitals; of those, 33 were seriously wounded, 68 were moderately wounded, and 1,388 were lightly wounded. Another 2,773 suffered from shock and anxiety. [3]
More than 2 million people - a third of Israel's population - were within Hezbollah rocket range [4]
300,000 - 500,000 Israelis were displaced from their homes [5]
More than 1 million residents were forced to live in bomb shelters [6]
6,000 homes were hit by rockets [7]
7,600 property damage claims were filed [8]
A Snapshot of Hezbollah's Rocket Cache and Attacks:

http://www.theisraelproject.org/sit...the_Numbers.htm
13,000 rockets were in Hezbollah's arsenal at the start of the war [9]
3,970: The number of rockets Hezbollah fired into Israeli cities and towns; 901 landed in urban areas [10]
Of the missiles Hezbollah has fired at Israel:
More than 1,000 hit the Kiryat Shmona area
808 hit near or in Nahariya
471 hit near or in Tzfat (Safed)
176 hit near or in Karmiel
106 hit near or in Akko
93 rockets hit the Haifa area
81 rockets hit near Tiberias [11]
1,800 buildings used by Hezbollah have been destroyed by Israeli forces [12]
530: Hezbollah guerrillas killed by the IDF [13]
309: Hezbollah rocket launchers destroyed by the IDF [14]
33: Hezbollah-built tunnels destroyed by the IDF [15]
Economic Losses to Israel:

$1.6 billion: The estimated cost of damage to the economy [16]
$5.3 billion: The cost of the war [17]
$335.4 million: The estimated compensation to be given to the population of northern Israel after the war [18]
$460 million: The amount of aid that will be given to local governments and emergency services in northern Israel [19]
20 percent: The percentage decrease in tourism in Israel during the war [20]
$27 million: The amount of money hotels in northern Israel lost in one month of fighting [21]
25,000 hotels in Israel were vacant [22]
$222 million: The total expected loss to the tourism industry [23]
630: The number of factories in northern Israel that were closed [24]
$1.4 billion: The amount of money businesses lost in northern Israel [25]
1.5 percent: Estimated loss in GDP [26]
Environmental Loss:

50 - 60 years: Time it will take for forests to recover [27]
6,178: The number of acres of grazing land burned [28]
618: The number of acres of natural or planted forest burned [29]
Humanitarian Assistance into Lebanon:

At least 70,000 foreign nationals were assisted by the IDF in the coordination efforts to evacuate Lebanon [30]
57 airplanes with humanitarian goods for Lebanese civilians were permitted to land and unload at Beirut International Airport [31]
Despite Israel's blockade of Lebanon by both air and sea, the IDF allowed 213 passenger ships, 123 ground convoys and 196 helicopters of foreign origin to travel through Lebanon to evacuate expatriates and tourists despite the interference it posed to the army [32]


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Footnotes:

[1] Rubin, Uzi, "The Rocket Campaign against Israel during the 2006 Lebanon War," June 2007, The Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, http://www.biu.ac.il/SOC/besa/docs/MSPS71.pdf
[2] Israel-Hizbullah Conflict: Victims of rocket attacks and IDF casualties," Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs Web site, accessed July 4, 2007, http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism...+attacks+and+IDF+casualties+July-Aug+2006.htm
[3] "Hizbullah attacks northern Israel and Israel's response," Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs Web site, accessed Aug. 14, 2006, http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism...n+Israel+and+Israels+response+12-Jul-2006.htm
[4] Ibid.
[5] Ibid; "Israel's War with Hezbollah: Facts and Figures," Embassy of Israel Backgrounder, Aug. 15, 2006.
[6] "Hizbullah attacks northern Israel and Israel's response," Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs Web site, accessed Aug. 14, 2006, http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism...n+Israel+and+Israels+response+12-Jul-2006.htm
[7] Ibid.
[8] "Israel's War with Hezbollah: Facts and Figures," Embassy of Israel Backgrounder, Aug. 15, 2006.
[9] "Israel's War with Hezbollah: Facts and Figures," Embassy of Israel Backgrounder, Aug. 8, 2006.
[10] "Hizbullah attacks northern Israel and Israel's response," Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs Web site, accessed Aug. 14, 2006, http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism...n+Israel+and+Israels+response+12-Jul-2006.htm
[11] Ibid.
[12] "The heavy human and economic cost of Lebanon war," Agence France-Presse , Aug. 14, 2006.
[13] Ibid.
[14] Ibid.
[15] Ibid.
[16] Ibid.
[17] "Israel's War with Hezbollah: Facts and Figures," Embassy of Israel Backgrounder, Aug. 15, 2006.
[18] Plotzker, Sever, "Who Will Pay the Price of War?" Yediot Ahronot , July 21, 2006.
[19] "Israel's War with Hezbollah: Facts and Figures," Embassy of Israel Backgrounder, Aug. 15, 2006.
[20] "Israel's War with Hezbollah: Facts and Figures," Embassy of Israel Backgrounder, Aug. 8, 2006.
[21] "Israel's War with Hezbollah: Facts and Figures," Embassy of Israel Backgrounder, Aug. 15, 2006.
[22] Plotzker, Sever, "Who Will Pay the Price of War?" Yediot Ahronot , July 21, 2006.
[23] "Israel's War with Hezbollah: Facts and Figures," Embassy of Israel Backgrounder, Aug. 8, 2006.
[24] Ibid.
[25] "Hizbullah attacks northern Israel and Israel's response," Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs Web site, accessed Aug. 14, 2006, http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism...n+Israel+and+Israels+response+12-Jul-2006.htm
[26] "Israel's War with Hezbollah: Facts and Figures," Embassy of Israel Backgrounder, Aug. 15, 2006.
[27] Ibid.
[28] Ibid.
[29] Ibid.
[30] Ibid.
[31] Ibid.
[32] Ibid.

 

[bluud]

Fuck Syria Fuck Iran

Fuck Syrians Fuck Iranians ... Fuck the God (or Allah or what the fuck ever) who created them.

Kill and slaughter them all before those ugly, ill and disgusting entities take over the world.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from WAEL012000:

During the conflict:

159 Israeli citizens were killed; of those
43 civilians of Jewish, Arab, Christian and Muslim origin killed in rocket attacks
119 IDF soldiers killed in rocket attacks as well as in armed combat [2]
4,262 civilians were treated for injuries in hospitals; of those, 33 were seriously wounded, 68 were moderately wounded, and 1,388 were lightly wounded. Another 2,773 suffered from shock and anxiety. [3]
More than 2 million people - a third of Israel's population - were within Hezbollah rocket range [4]
300,000 - 500,000 Israelis were displaced from their homes [5]
More than 1 million residents were forced to live in bomb shelters [6]
6,000 homes were hit by rockets [7]
7,600 property damage claims were filed [8]
A Snapshot of Hezbollah's Rocket Cache and Attacks:

http://www.theisraelproject.org/sit...the_Numbers.htm
13,000 rockets were in Hezbollah's arsenal at the start of the war [9]
3,970: The number of rockets Hezbollah fired into Israeli cities and towns; 901 landed in urban areas [10]
Of the missiles Hezbollah has fired at Israel:
More than 1,000 hit the Kiryat Shmona area
808 hit near or in Nahariya
471 hit near or in Tzfat (Safed)
176 hit near or in Karmiel
106 hit near or in Akko
93 rockets hit the Haifa area
81 rockets hit near Tiberias [11]
1,800 buildings used by Hezbollah have been destroyed by Israeli forces [12]
530: Hezbollah guerrillas killed by the IDF [13]
309: Hezbollah rocket launchers destroyed by the IDF [14]
33: Hezbollah-built tunnels destroyed by the IDF [15]
Economic Losses to Israel:

$1.6 billion: The estimated cost of damage to the economy [16]
$5.3 billion: The cost of the war [17]
$335.4 million: The estimated compensation to be given to the population of northern Israel after the war [18]
$460 million: The amount of aid that will be given to local governments and emergency services in northern Israel [19]
20 percent: The percentage decrease in tourism in Israel during the war [20]
$27 million: The amount of money hotels in northern Israel lost in one month of fighting [21]
25,000 hotels in Israel were vacant [22]
$222 million: The total expected loss to the tourism industry [23]
630: The number of factories in northern Israel that were closed [24]
$1.4 billion: The amount of money businesses lost in northern Israel [25]
1.5 percent: Estimated loss in GDP [26]
Environmental Loss:

50 - 60 years: Time it will take for forests to recover [27]
6,178: The number of acres of grazing land burned [28]
618: The number of acres of natural or planted forest burned [29]
Humanitarian Assistance into Lebanon:

At least 70,000 foreign nationals were assisted by the IDF in the coordination efforts to evacuate Lebanon [30]
57 airplanes with humanitarian goods for Lebanese civilians were permitted to land and unload at Beirut International Airport [31]
Despite Israel's blockade of Lebanon by both air and sea, the IDF allowed 213 passenger ships, 123 ground convoys and 196 helicopters of foreign origin to travel through Lebanon to evacuate expatriates and tourists despite the interference it posed to the army [32]

That's exactly what I was talking about, Hezbollah fired a lot of rockets which caused minor loss of civilian and military lives (43+119), minor property damage and some inconvenience for the Israeli public. Yeah, Hezbollah burned some trees and Israelis had to spend some time in bomb shelters. At the same time Hezbollah lost 500-700 militants, infrastructure, weapons and Southern Lebanon. If that's what passes for "divine victory" in the arab world these days, your expectations are pretty low.

 

[acronym]

Quote from dddooo:

If that's what passes for "divine victory" in the arab world these days, your expectations are pretty low.

They made a prophet out of some guy who, what, won a handfull of battles-1?2? 3 maybe?
His main victory was the result of supply problems in the opponents army...very far from a divine victory.

 

[WAEL012000]

Quote from acronym:

They made a prophet out of some guy who, what, won a handfull of battles-1?2? 3 maybe?
His main victory was the result of supply problems in the opponents army...very far from a divine victory.

I am not into expectations and hypes anymore. Matter of fact, I kept my mouth shut when all of the zionists on this forum talked about whipping Hezbullah off the map. Some of them went as far as claiming that the mighty Israeli army will reach Litani river control its water and strategic location.

Non of the Israeli objectives were achieved. The two monkeys are still with Hezbullah. The fourth strongest army on earth lost more than 100 of its elite soldiers, hundreds of billion of dollars worth of loss (most likely will be compensated by the American tax payer) and not even an inch of Lebanon was stolen beyond a disputed area called Shaba'a farms which was under their control prior to the war.

We are beyond big talk. One thing that is interesting is that, during the war, the Israeli public toned into Nassrallah speeches more than their own governoment's. Why? According to one of their poles, they trusted Nassrallah more than their own government when it came to informing them about the war progress.

The bottom line...David was not beaten by Goliath. David stood up, in honor, and fought. With their own blood, they wrote books in honor.

 

[I.Q.]

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Answer: Iran

:eek:

 

[bluud]

Quote from I.Q.:

Question: What country in the Middle East is the United States preparing to attack because of fear that it may be a threat to us and to our allies?

Answer: Iran

:eek:

Why are you so fucking confused ??? Are you fucking stupid or something?!

Iran and Iranians are cheap, poor and worthless. Their lives are nothing but shit. Killing and then enslaving their remainders are what should be done.

Are you so fucking dumb as to not be able to comprehend the fact of nature; the strong fucks the weak and the poor. Even the fucking God does so, why shouldn't his fucked up creation?!