Israel warns: free soldier or PM dies

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

The principle of a trial, then evidence, then prosecution, then punishment mean anything at all to you?
Not with terrorists, not with people who openly encourage abduction of foreign citizens, not during wars. Other than these "exceptions" it means a great deal to me.

Or is everything in your world blind revenge motivated by self righteousness....
Revenge, self-righteousness? I call it self-defense and retaliation.

Shoot, even the US has an "official" policy against assassinations....
That's not Israel's policy and I tend to agree with the Israelis.

Your judge, jury, and executioner mentality is sickening...
You think Hamas members deserve a fair trial? What about the Nazis? Should they have been arrested and prosecuted in 1944 instead of being killed?

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Whatever you claim to be true, is true because?

Is Israel willing to allow a third party to determine just who is the terrorist?

Any reasonable person who is looking at the situation sees two sides calling each other the same names....

Yes, the Nazis should have been arrested and then tried, just like they did at Nuremberg.

You and your ilk are not interested in a justice system beyond your own sense of self righteousness and righteous indignation, which is why Israel doesn't receive and maintain worldwide support....

Quote from dddooo:

The principle of a trial, then evidence, then prosecution, then punishment mean anything at all to you?
Not with terrorists, not with people who openly encourage abduction of foreign citizens, not during wars. Other than these "exceptions" it means a great deal to me.

Or is everything in your world blind revenge motivated by self righteousness....
Revenge, self-righteousness? I call it self-defense and retaliation.

Shoot, even the US has an "official" policy against assassinations....
That's Israel's policy and I tend to agree with the Israelis.

Your judge, jury, and executioner mentality is sickening...
You think Hamas members deserve a fair trial? What about the Nazis? Should they have been arrested and prosecuted in 1944 instead of being killed?

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Whatever you claim to be true, is true because?
How about because of common sense? Hamas leaders are not exactly mother Teresa, are they?

Is Israel willing to allow a third party to determine just who is the terrorist?
Sure, Hamas is an internatinally recognized terrorist organization, even the europeans have acknowledged that.

Any reasonable person who is looking at the situation sees two sides calling each other the same names....
And any intelligent and educated person knows which side is the agressor and which side is defending its right to exist.

Yes, the Nazis should have been arrested and then tried, just like they did at Nuremberg.
LOL, at Nuremberg they tried the nazis who SURRENDERED. Have the Hamas people Israel wants to assassinate surrendered?

 

[thunderinvalley]

if Zz seems a tad bit more agitated and intolerant lately..

it's cause his longs are well underwater

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Quote from dddooo:

How about because of common sense? Hamas leaders are not exactly mother Teresa, are they?


So you are right, and everyone else is wrong.

How perfect for you.

Sure, Hamas is an internatinally recognized terrorist organization, even the europeans have acknowledged that.

Even an ex con deserves a trial, not an execution without a justice system...

And any intelligent and educated person knows which side is the agressor and which side is defending its right to exist.

So anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view is ignorant and uneducated.

LOL, at Nuremberg they tried the nazis who SURRENDERED. Have the Hamas people Israel wants to assassinate surrendered?

Have they been put in a position where their only option was to surrender, and face a fair justice system?

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

So you are right, and everyone else is wrong.
I don't know that many people who claim that Hamas is not a terrorist organziation. You, wael... that's about it.

Even an ex con deserves a trial, not an execution without a justice system...
Fine, let them surrender. Can you arrange that?

So anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view is ignorant and uneducated.
There are certain things that are not debatable - people claiming that the earth is flat or that Hamas is not a terrorist organization are indeed ignorant and uneducated.

Have they been put in a position where their only option was to surrender, and face a fair justice system?
You bet. Palestinian PM can certainly surrender and face a fair trial...or be killed. The same options that Nazis had in 1945.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

You know, it is very hard to find anyone these days who defends the Nazis.

Yet, when it comes to Israel and the Palestinians, the world opinion is very mixed.

Very well educated intelligent people have taken both sides of this issue, which leads me to believe that neither side is absolutely right nor absolutely wrong, no matter how much either side claims they are the right ones and the other side is in the wrong.....

I continue to see the same type and kind of fanaticism from you that I see from the other side, two sides of the same coin, same black and white thinking, same rationalization of never ending violence...oh and it just happens to be a situation of occupation...where both sides claim to be victims to rationalize their violence and killing....

What a coincidence....

Quote from dddooo:

So you are right, and everyone else is wrong.
I don't know that many people who claim that Hamas is not a terrorist organziation. You, wael... that's about it.

Even an ex con deserves a trial, not an execution without a justice system...
Fine, let them surrender. Can you arrange that?

So anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view is ignorant and uneducated.
There are certain things in life that are not debatable - people claiming that the earth is flat or that Hamas is not a terrorist organization are indeed ignorant and uneducated.

Have they been put in a position where their only option was to surrender, and face a fair justice system?
You bet. Palestinian PM can certainly surrender and face a fair trial...or be killed. Exacly the same options that Nazis had in 1945

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

the same coin, same black and white thinking, same rationalization of never ending violence

Funny, isn't it, Israel accepts the partition, arabs don't and start wars, Israel makes peace with Jordan and Egypt and gives up land to achieve it but other 20 arab countries refuse to recognize Israel, Israel offers peace to Arafat, Arafat walks out without a counter-offer, Israel withdraws from Gaza, palestians launch mortar attacks on Israel from Gaza, then they kidnap Israeli citizens...but you see no difference between two sides. Do you think there is no difference or you refuse to see it?

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Israel is the innocent victim, who makes right by doing what is wrong on the basis of what they perceive is wrong....what a natural role...

We keep coming back to the same place, because you mind is not open, not objective, and already made up.

It is nothing but argument from conclusions, which is what fanatics on both sides repeatedly do.

Have a nice weekend...

Quote from dddooo:

Funny, isn't it, Israel accepts the partition, arabs don't and start wars, Israel makes peace with Jordan and Egypt and gives up land to achieve it but other 20 arab countries refuse to recognize Israel, Israel offers peace to Arafat, Arafat walks out without a counter-offer, Israel withdraws from Gaza, palestians launch mortar attacks on Israel from Gaza, then they kidnap Israeli citizens...but you see no difference between two sides. Do you think there is no difference or you refuse to see it?