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Israel nuclear attack on Iran: conspiracy by an oil long?
- Thread starter scriabinop23
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Quote from clacy:
The only reason Iraq hasn't been more successful, is the Bush administration has not let our military do their job.
What they need to do rather than send in more troops, is kick out the liberal media (which serves to protect the terrorists) and let the damn Marines do their job..................kill the bad guys.
We could have Iraq completely under control in less than a month.
It's all clear to me now. All that was needed was a some decent censorship, so that whatever horrors were (or might be) visited on the population of Iraq by the US military would be hidden from view.
Don't you think a world view that seems based on "good guys" and "bad guys" is just a wee bit oversimplified ?
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Quote from ess1096:
OK, Politics aside. Is there any credibility to the original story? And will it have any affect on Monday's crude price?
If you are talking about contingency planning, I don't see any reason to find it not credible. If you are talking about some sort of impending action, who can know.
Quote from dcraig:
I agree with that. I don't see anything particularly offensive about holding a view that the state of Israel should never have existed in it's current form. One could equally hold a view that the state of Iraq was really a creation of British imperialism and things could have been done far better. Right or wrong, there is no reason why somebody shouldn't hold such views without being accused of anti Semitism.
However the stuff on the holocaust is another matter and is very offensive. Even if he believes it (which he may not, and be just playing to a perceived audience) it is just plain stupid to try to play on it.
exactly.
abandoned colonialist efforts leaves its damaging marks all over this world, and is the often ignored key cause of 90% of the conflict we see today.
if the guy didn't come off so anti-semetic, I might actually consider him likable and even right about the US' general stance towards the sovereignty of nations like Iran. But then he goes denying the holocaust, and credibility goes right out the window. Idiot.
Quote from ess1096:
OK, Politics aside. Is there any credibility to the original story? And will it have any affect on Monday's crude price?
Regarding credibilty.
Israel has never admitted to having nukes, so unless they now offically announce otherwise: this story can only ever be a rumour...
Quote from dcraig:
Don't you think a world view that seems based on "good guys" and "bad guys" is just a wee bit oversimplified ?
i'm astonished at how strongly that reductive worldview has permeated clever minds very close to home. if someone believes that people are 'either good or evil' or that we're in the throes of a binary cultural struggle, it becomes nearly impossible to sincerely entertain the idea that our own leadership could be acting in conflict with our own interests ..as a country, as a unified culture, etc
after all, they're on 'our' side. cultivating armageddon is convenient for many interests here at home
Quote from Avid_Consumer:
i'm astonished at how strongly that reductive worldview has permeated clever minds very close to home. if someone believes that people are 'either good or evil' or that we're in the throes of a binary cultural struggle, it becomes nearly impossible to sincerely entertain the idea that our own leadership could be acting in conflict with our own interests ..as a country, as a unified culture, etc
after all, they're on 'our' side. cultivating armageddon is convenient for many interests here at home
I have sometimes wondered how much of the fairly revolting stuff that has been said about the holocaust is the a reaction to the tag of Islamo-Fascist and similiar such nonsense coming from some quarters in the West. Something along the lines of "If you are going to call us Islamo-Fascists then take this !" Childish perhaps, but anymore childish than the stuff about "bad guys" coming out of the mouths of US generals and civilian leadership ?
Yes, if you said China & Iran have big oil & gas deals you have the right answer!!!Quote from 5Pillars:
Another VERY LARGE component (missed by many in the manipulated mainstream media) of the US surrounding Iran, in Iraq and Afghanistan for an "end game" play is - - - > China.
Do you know why?
http://www.energybulletin.net/3411.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55414-2004Nov16.html