Israel is "barking on the wrong tree"

[Gio 2009]

I don't believe anyone made the assertion that the world does or should revolve around Israel. You, on the other hand don't seem to realize that the statements you made below about Israel apply moreso to brazil. You don't seem to understand that most people don't give a shit about brazil, people don't understand why you keep spamming the board about brazil, noone cares. It's a 3rd world dump with more prostitution and drug addiction than nearly anywhere else on earth. For whatever reason, you are clearly obsessed with it but noone here gives a shit. In fact it's clear that people here are alot more interested in discussing Israel than brazil. It's a shithole. If anywhere in south america is going to be discussed, at least make it somewhere interesting like Santiago or Buenos Aires.

Brazil is a corrupt shithole overun with crackwhores and drug addicts.

Some typical brazilian housing.

Another typical brazilian neighborhood.

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SouthAmerica:

Quoting from that thread: “I am sick and tired of listening anything about Israel.

The world does not revolve around Israel. There are more important things around the world than Israel.

I have tuned Israel off long time ago, and any time there is any news about Israel on TV - I change the channel.

Israel means nothing to me. I am a secular guy and I don't follow any religion.

I have been saturated of the Israel subject since the 1970's.

Enough, is enough....

I don't give a s**t about Israel.”


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[Gio 2009]

Yes you have lived in the United States for a long time, which is what makes it really odd that you hate it so much! If brazil is so great, why don't you go live there? It's kind of odd, for someone who "doesn't care about Israel" and "doesn't want to hear about Israel", you sure do run your mouth about it alot. Why is that?

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October 24, 2009

SouthAmerica: I live here in the United States for a long time and it does not make sense to me why the United States gives so much support to Israel in the Middle East? – Since supporting Israel goes completely against the self-interest of the United States in that region of the world.

Israel has manipulated the politicians in Washington long enough, and it is time for the United States disconnect itself from Israel and pursue new policies that support its self-interest in that area of the world.

Supporting Israel has been a losing proposition in every sense for the United States for a long time, and it is time to get wise and move in a new direction. Only FOOLS would continue on that same old path into nowhere…

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[SouthAmerica]

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Gio 2009: It's kind of odd, for someone who "doesn't care about Israel" and "doesn't want to hear about Israel", you sure do run your mouth about it alot. Why is that?


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October 24, 2009

SouthAmerica: Because the American mainstream media keep show stuff about Israel on television – who cares about a little piece of worthless desert?

I am not religious and I don’t believe in the Fairy Tales about Moses, Abraham and so forth from an age long gone that sensible people should not take to seriously today.

To me Israel is just a little country with a few million people – a piece of worthless desert and nothing more.

I find disgusting when I see on television the destruction caused by Israel against the Gaza people – they come with their gunships armed with missiles and they blow up buildings full with woman, children and senior citizens. And that happens time and time again – If anything Israel is a state out of control that wants to make war on all its neighbours. Israel destroyed Lebanon completely about 2 years ago from the air, and now Israel wants to bomb Iran.

Israel started looking as the real cancer in that region of the world – a country that wants to keep waging wars to justify the cash (gravy train) coming from the United States year after year.

There is a thousand things that are more important for the United States such as China, national health insurance, and so on than keep supporting Israel where the self-interest is having a war strategy to keep the gravy train coming from the United States.

For Israel making trouble and bomb other people’s countries is a way to keep the United States sending cash and weapons to Israel year after year.

You can read about the Jewish Lobby at:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1410647&highlight=Jewish+lobby#post1410647


March 25, 2007

SouthAmerica: It is interesting The Economist magazine choice of a title for an article on their magazine about the Jewish lobby – “Leviathan”.

The Christian interpretation of “Leviathan” is often considered to be a “demon” or natural monster associated with “Satan or the Devil”.

Some biblical scholars considered “Leviathan” to represent the pre-existent forces of chaos.

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Regarding the actual article The Economist said that today the Jewish lobby in the United States can count with the help of - “…The lobbyists had every reason to feel proud of their work. Congress has more Jewish members than ever before: 30 in the House and a remarkable 13 in the Senate.”

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[a_person]

Quote from southamerica:

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October 24, 2009

SouthAmerica: I live here in the United States for a long time and it does not make sense to me why the United States gives so much support to Israel in the Middle East?
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How about...because Israel is right. Because Israel is the underdog in the conflict occupying 0.2% of the regional land, outnumbered 70 to 1 (just arabs, not counting Iranians and other muslims) and surrounded by 23 states that do not recognize its right to exist. Because it makes sense to be associated with regional superpowers (who also happen to be free democratic societies) rather than doing business with shitholes like Iran and Brazil? How about because Israel is simply the first target of the islamic expansion and if it falls the attacks on the west and the US will intensify, or alternatively without the US support Israel if cornered will simply turn the entire Middle East into a radioactive desert for several centuries and screw the oil prices... Need more reasons?

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I grew up in Sao Paulo, We had some good friends who where Jewish, but our family was the exception since in general Brazilians discriminated against Jews in the same way Americans discriminate about black people in the USA, and many people in Brazil did not want to associate with Jews in any way.

I happen to have a number of Brazilian friends here in the US (NJ). And its kind of ironic that you, not them, are the one who hates Israel, the US, the jews. They would not piss on stupid uber-leftist antisemitic scum like you if you were on fire.

 

[TGregg]

Quote from Gio 2009:

Yes you have lived in the United States for a long time. . . If brazil is so great, why don't you go live there?

Because it's not so great. Everybody knows it, even our OP. BRIC is very aptly named.

 

[a_person]

Quote from southamerica:

.SouthAmerica: Because the American mainstream media keep show stuff about Israel on television – who cares about a little piece of worthless desert?
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Who do you think you're kidding? There is no american mainstream media spotlight on Israel. Its the Islamonazi/uber-leftist alliance (which includes you) that keeps whining about israel 24/7. It's your iranian ayatollahs, Saudi mullahs, UN bureaucrats, third world corrupt crime-ridden shitholes like your beloved Brazil, european socialists and South american revolutionaries that are mad like hell that little Israel has been kicking your collective Islamonazi/anti-western ass for the last 60 years.

Blabbering about Israel day after day after day, thread after thread after thread while claiming that you don't care about it only reveals your stupidity and pathetic lack of brain.

 

[SouthAmerica]

a person: There is no american mainstream media spotlight on Israel.


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October 25, 2009

SouthAmerica: Only if you don't include The New York Times, CNN News, the BBC News, Channel 2, 4, 5, 7 and 13, and most of PBS.

Never mind the massive Jewish Lobby and its propaganda machine - including Hollywood.

We are getting to the point in which even films about WW II the story line is being completely distorted because of some kind of agenda.

Other than that ....

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[SouthAmerica]

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A person: How about...because Israel is right.

How about because Israel is simply the first target of the islamic expansion and if it falls the attacks on the west and the US will intensify…


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October 25, 2009

SouthAmerica: Israel is right from their point of view – I don’t blame Israel for milking the gravy train dry – after a certain point it does not make sense anymore for the United States to borrow money from China to give away to Israel – a gravy train that has been going on for a long time and completely against the self-interest of the United States and the American people.

The odds are in favor of things getting much better for everybody – if Israel is no longer in the way of peace.


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a person: alternatively without the US support Israel if cornered will simply turn the entire Middle East into a radioactive desert for several centuries and screw the oil prices... Need more reasons?


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SouthAmerica: As a Brazilian the first thought that comes to mind is that oil at $ 500 dollar per barrel would be very profitable for Petrobras and its vast oil resources.

Besides a large portion of the Brazil economy is powered by ethanol anyway….

By the way, besides Brazil that would be good also for Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Ecuador, Angola, Nigeria, and so on….

The conclusion is we should cut US support to Israel immediately.

After that the United States could concentrate its efforts on more important world affairs such as China, India, Russia, Europe, Brazil and even Africa – or 99.99 percent of the global population.


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a person: I happen to have a number of Brazilian friends here in the US (NJ). And its kind of ironic that you, not them, are the one who hates Israel, the US, the jews. They would not piss on stupid uber-leftist antisemitic scum like you if you were on fire.


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SouthAmerica: I don't hate Israel, and never did in the past.

I just don't care about Israel, Israel means nothing to me.

I care as much about Israel as I care about the Albania, Congo, Somalia, Sudan, and many other countries that mean nothing to me.

I have no reason to care about Israel in any way - other than I am sick and tired of hearing about Israel year after year on television all the time. I have tuned Israel off as much as I could for a long time, but just like a disease that always keep coming back and you are sick of it.

I already explained a number of times on this forum that I am not anti-Jew, or anti-Semitic, or any other excuse that you guys use all the time.

I am not a religious person, and I don’t care which religion anybody practices from Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Moslem, Buddhist, Hinduism, and so on….

I never played the religion game with anybody. When people try to bring out the problems that we have in Brazil such as the Favelas in Rio de Janeiro, or the problem with the criminal gangs – I don’t react by hiding behind religion and start accusing people of being anti-Catholic. (just because many people in Brazil happens to be Catholic).

Maybe in the future any time someone says anything against Brazil that I don’t like it then to shut him/her up I am going to start whining about that that person must be an anti-Catholic.

From now on I am going to use the Israeli strategy – anybody that says anything against Brazil it must be because that person is anti-Catholic.

In no time we all can be playing the hide behind the religion game.

Any time anybody say anything against Brazil in the future it is because that person is anti-Brazilian, anti-Latin American, anti-South American, and above all anti-Catholic.


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a person: They would not piss on stupid uber-leftist antisemitic scum like you if you were on fire.


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SouthAmerica: You people committed genocide in Lebanon and Gaza - and the entire world were watching it live on CNN News and on the BBC News...

A picture is worth a thousand words....


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[a_person]

Quote from southamerica:

SouthAmerica: You people committed genocide in Lebanon and Gaza - and the entire world were watching it live on CNN News and on the BBC News...

Genocides were actually committed in Rwanda and Sudan, the world did not watch, the world did not give a damn (that includes you and your country).

And here is what happened in Lebanon and Gaza:

Richard Kemp, the Commander of British forces in Afganistan: "the Israel Defense Forces did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare...the IDF dropped over two million leaflets over areas of Gaza and made hundreds of thousands of phone calls to warn civilians prior to attacks on terrorist forces, often eliminating the crucial element of surprise. Israel also called off many attacks on terrorist forces for fear of harming civilians being used as human shields... While other modern Western armies would probably take the above measures while being scrutinized by the media, they would not go the extra mile like the IDF did by allowing huge quantities of humanitarian aid to enter Gaza at the very height of the fighting.

 

[a_person]

Quote from southamerica:

.By the way, besides Brazil that would be good also for Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Ecuador, Angola, Nigeria, and so on….

The conclusion is we should cut US support to Israel immediately..

So Israel vaporizing the entire middle east would be good for Brazil, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela... and therefore the US should go for it, right? LOL, you are an idiot. No wonder you were ridiculed and laughed at even on Dailykos where your anti-american, anti-western views are mainstream. Even they saw through your ignorance and stupidity.