Quote from traderNik:
You're one of these guys who try to throw in a disparaging comment about the terrorists every once in a while. It's very hard to tell in this medium of communication where your head's really at.
I'll tell you where my head's at. You shouldn't put money and effort into something that doesn't give something back, because that's actual wealth wasted, forever. You simply don't do it unless it's absolutely necessary for your survival. Terrorism was never a major threat to the survival of the US; as your fellow assbags has pointed out, terrorism has killed slightly more than 12 thousand people, mostly non-Americans. In the big picture, that's piss in the ocean, it's less than americans kill americans in a couple of years, less than Americans dying form obesity in a freaking month. In 2006 more than 17 thousand Americans lost their lives due to drunk driving, and nobody has even considered forbidding liquor. Yet you pour your hearts out fighting this horrendously insignificant terrorism.
The most sickening part is that everything the US has done to stop terrorism since your little war started, has lead to an exponential increase in the amount of terrorists world wide. That's not a simple mistake on your governments account, the world told you this was going to happen, but Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld didn't listen. And that's not even close to the worst part, the worst part is the fact that Bin Laden said that his plan for destroying America was to drag the US into the middle-east and keep you there until your financially bankrupt:
"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript. He also said al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration."
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/
If it weren't for all the man hours, all the wasted lives and all the trillions of dollars that have been poured into your war on NOTHING, the financial crisis you've brought on the entire world might have been avoided. All those hundreds of thousands of men and woman, soldiers, agents, investigators, police, security, working their asses of for the sake of fighting nothing, instead of being productive, as they would have been if they weren't lied to. It's a shameful and disgusting waste. And the murderous bastard Bin Laden is winning.
Whenever you have a weird situation like this, you need to figure out why it's done, you need to find out who wins. In this particular incident, Republicans in general, and neoconservatives in particular are the ones who takes out political capital. It is obviously then not a coincidence that these people are also the ones promoting terrorism the most. Nor is it a coincidence that these people have been running the war on terror for the last years.
It's clear that you're either an apologist for the terrorists or you're misguided. Your accusing me of being a 'neocon' indicates the former; the neocons on here hate my guts.
Actually I didn't call you a neocon, I said that stupid Americans are taking the neocon bait, indirectly calling you a stupid American. I don't know anything about you, but if I had to guess, I'd say your a proud Democrat, possibly son of Muslim immigrants who raised you in a largely Republican area. Your parents are not from an Arab country though, maybe Indonesia, Bosnia or so. You have always taken a great deal of pride in your Muslim faith, but lately you have been struggling very hard with your American identity and you might even have considered denouncing your faith, although you never actually came close to doing it. At some point, you found some all-American Muslim like senator Keith Ellison and you realized that you could embrace your Muslim faith and still be an ignorant American patriot. So now you run around denouncing terrorism (as if somebody actually supports these murderers), bending backwards in your attempt to achieve acceptance. This is what my very dear friend a_person is always trying to do, he calls everyone who doesn't eat his shit Islamofascists and babykillers so that they bend backwords and become his personal potty chair. And it actually works on people who lack integrity, it works on you.
But that's based on a couple of posts. Like I said, I don't know anything about you.
There are a large number of what I consider to be inaccuracies and factual errors in this last post. I don't have the time to answer right now, but I will do so tomorrow.
I'll be waiting.