Isn't it time Trayvon's parents accept responsibility?

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Quote from Lucrum:

Does your stupid ass even know what a stand your ground is/allows?

Do you think it applied in the Zimmerman case or does it only apply if someone is coming into your space ? serious question.

 

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Quote from piezoe:

We've been talking about the need for dialog between the races for years. Fine, Patrick Buchannan expresses how a large fraction of whites feel, and Jessy Jackson and Al Sharpton express how a large fraction of black Americans feel. So there is a dialog, and where has it gotten us? Nowhere.

Though one hears the word "racism" in every media discussion of race relations, discrimination and prejudice are a matter of perceived probabilities, not race -- the high correlation of probabilities and race notwithstanding. Change the probabilities and you will change perception, and with it discrimination and prejudice.

My perspective is that of a white male living in the Deep South.

I am told by a long-time social worker that black parents in the deep south tell their children that the white man is the devil. Black children justify their poor performance in school and protect their self-esteem by convincing themselves that education is a white thing. Astronomic numbers of black children are born into single parent households on welfare, raised by grandmothers, and educated on the street rather than in school. Black males emulate prison garb in the way they wear their clothes. Of the ones who do manage to graduate from high school, a not insignificant fraction are virtually illiterate. GED classes are almost entirely black.

Is it any wonder that racism among blacks is an epidemic. Is it any wonder that many can barely read or write. Is it any wonder that they have no access to capital and no job, and when they manage to get one, can't keep it. Is it any wonder that a very high percentage are on public assistance. Is it any wonder that their incarceration rate is astronomical.

Though correlated with a coefficient of one, prejudice and discrimination by whites against blacks is not due to race. There are, of course, racists among the white population. Rather the prejudice and discrimination experienced by blacks is caused by the perceived probability that a black person will be poorly educated, untrustworthy, and involved in criminal activity of one sort or another. If that perceived probability goes up, prejudice and discrimination will worsen, if it goes down, prejudice and discrimination will lessen.

The best way to tackle this problem is to abandon the ineffective attempts to change perception, and instead change the actual probability. The civil war ended a century and a half ago. The black community would do well to recognize this, get down to business, and stop this counterproductive, illogical blaming of white folks for the condition they find themselves in.

Good observations!

 

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Quote from Lucrum:

Does your stupid ass even know what a stand your ground is/allows?

The dumbass's answer must be, "NO," since he answers your question with another of his stupid questions. What a moron brokenarrow has proven to be.

 

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Quote from pspr:

The dumbass's answer must be, "NO," since he answers your question with another of his stupid questions. What a moron brokenarrow has proven to be.

How does the bentarrow find the time to post his garbage when he's supposed to be roofing houses?

 

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How does the bentarrow find the time to post his garbage when he's supposed to be roofing houses?

He probably finds illegal Mexicans who are dumber than he is to do much of the actual labor.

I guess he just visits the job long enough to inspect the work and do a header onto the driveway. Either that or he just doesn't get many jobs as his reputation spreads.

 

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Quote from bigarrow:

Do you think it applied in the Zimmerman case or does it only apply if someone is coming into your space ? serious question.

Personally I don't think it applied in the Zimmerman case. Reason, it's kinda hard to flee in the first place with a larger man on top of you banging your head against the concrete.
Serious answer, BTW.

 

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Quote from Lucrum:

Personally I don't think it applied in the Zimmerman case. Reason, it's kinda hard to flee in the first place with a larger man on top of you banging your head against the concrete.
Serious answer, BTW.

Your answer doesn't make any sense Lucrum. And wasn't the large man the one getting his ass kicked in the fight by the skinny teenager? That's a rhetorical question Lucrum.

 

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How does the bentarrow find the time to post his garbage when he's supposed to be roofing houses?

If you'd grow up and stop putting hundreds on ignore you'd know I'm not a roofing laborer, I'm the contractor. I have a foreman and crews who do most of the outside work. I do a lot of sales, scheduling jobs, ordering materials and solving problems when they come up. Oh and lots of f*ing book work. That part sucks and is even less fun than actually working on the roof.

 

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Quote from bigarrow:

Your answer doesn't make any sense Lucrum.

Do you know what a stand your ground law is/means/allows?

And wasn't the large man the one getting his ass kicked in the fight by the skinny teenager? That's a rhetorical question Lucrum.

Irrelevant.

 

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Quote from Lucrum:

Do you know what a stand your ground law is/means/allows?Irrelevant.

Sure in a general way, but I haven't read the Florida law. Here in Texas you can take lethal measures to protect yourself, but you can't start a fight then kill someone to protect yourself with some kind of charges being against you. And I know that is the great unknown, who started the fight and that is why Zimmerman was acquitted. I'll ask a local cop next time I roof one of their houses what they think they would of done if responded to a scene similar to the Zimmerman one. Just from observing the local news, I think the shooter would of been arrested and tested for drugs and alcohol in their system. The trial could of turned out the same here locally but the initial reaction would of been different, again just guessing. Like I've said from the beginning the main threat Zimmerman has is going to be the civil trial, which I think he will lose on that one.

Irrelevant ??? not to responding to your post it wasn't, you are the one who mentioned a large man.