Isn't it about time?

[rcn10ec]

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1. Muslims of the same sect do not prefer to challenge their brethren.

2. a. Yes.

2. b. Yes. In Islam it is forbidden to kill women or children in Jihad. Anyone who does this is not a Muslim.

Seems to me that if 2(b) applies, then 1 is no longer in effect.
In other words: if anyone in Jihad kills women or children they are not a Muslim, then if not a Muslim how can they be brethren.

 

[RCG Trader]

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Seems to me that if 2(b) applies, then 1 is no longer in effect.
In other words: if anyone in Jihad kills women or children they are not a Muslim, then if not a Muslim how can they be brethren.

For the same reason that in the redneck South there are active branches of the KKK who go to church.

 

[Tsing Tao]

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The KKK is a diseased branch of Christianity. Al Queada is a diseased branch of Islam. .

I am inclined to agree with this comparison, but one important distinction remains. The KKK does not regularly carry out terrorist attacks.

 

[RCG Trader]

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I am inclined to agree with this comparison, but one important distinction remains. The KKK does not regularly carry out terrorist attacks.

The founding fathers were terrorists too..

Think about that for a minute.

 

[Tsing Tao]

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The founding fathers were terrorists too..

Think about that for a minute.

One man's Freedom Fighter is another man's Terrorist. I firmly believe that, and I agree it is a matter of your point of view. From King George's perspective, the Founding Fathers were, indeed, terrorists. Although I would think the world more applicable would be "insurrectionists".

It's not like Adams sent suicide bombers to London. They openly rebelled, for the purpose of freeing themselves from tyranny. You could argue that Palestinians are doing something similar, sans the "openly".

But to compare the Founding Fathers to today's Wahhabi extremest groups is a tad disingenuous.

 

[pspr]

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A couple questions:
(1)If the majority of Muslims call themselves "peaceful", why are they not rising up by the thousands or tens of thousands in protest against the extremists?

(2)If all Muslims are supposed to be devout followers of Koran/Islam:
(a)do they all not have in common the same beliefs according to Koran/Islam?
(b)isn't one side or the other (the "peaceful"/the extremists) wrong according to Koran/Islam?

Yes. That speak volumes about the Muslim religion and the underlying fact that the religion calls for the violent (if necessary) take over of the world.

 

[RCG Trader]

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One man's Freedom Fighter is another man's Terrorist. I firmly believe that, and I agree it is a matter of your point of view. From King George's perspective, the Founding Fathers were, indeed, terrorists. Although I would think the world more applicable would be "insurrectionists".

It's not like Adams sent suicide bombers to London. They openly rebelled, for the purpose of freeing themselves from tyranny. You could argue that Palestinians are doing something similar, sans the "openly".

But to compare the Founding Fathers to today's Wahhabi extremest groups is a tad disingenuous.

It is quite appropriate sans the technology.

 

[RCG Trader]

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Yes. That speak volumes about the Muslim religion and the underlying fact that the religion calls for the violent (if necessary) take over of the world.

lol, clearly you no historian.

 

[Tsing Tao]

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It is quite appropriate sans the technology.

It is not at all similar. And you are a dope if you think it is.

Take the technology out of it. Take any slave revolt throughout time. The slaves pursued insurrection for freedom. The forefathers did the same to avoid political persecution.

Bin Ladin stated several times he wanted the world to convert to Islam. Extremist groups like his have gone on record saying they will kill - indiscriminately - the infidels until that is accomplished. If anything, they are trying to enslave the world to their ideas, not make people more free.

 

[RCG Trader]

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It is not at all similar. And you are a dope if you think it is.

Take the technology out of it. Take any slave revolt throughout time. The slaves pursued insurrection for freedom. The forefathers did the same to avoid political persecution.

Bin Ladin stated several times he wanted the world to convert to Islam. Extremist groups like his have gone on record saying they will kill - indiscriminately - the infidels until that is accomplished. If anything, they are trying to enslave the world to their ideas, not make people more free.

Osama Bin Laden stopped being a Jihadist the first time a woman or child was killed. The Quran is quite clear about this. I do not understand your point.