'Islamization' of Paris a Warning to the West

So on which end of the spectrum to you place the BNP and SD? More on the Geert end or the Le Pen end?

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I the think the FN leadership has done a good job in presenting themselves as a nationalist anti-immigration party but still seem to attract and accept violent racist goons and those on the margins of society that believe everything is a conspiracy. What with the FN fortunes hitting a bump in the road at this present time its members have come to believe that their past meteoric assent was halted by the invisible and dark forces of Judea-Marxism rather than voter disinterest.
The BNP are presently suffering from infighting and are having hard time finding consensus amongst party rank and file. Scratch the new shiny veneer and you will still find the same old bunch of race baiting holocaust deniers who funnily enough once made a trip to Libya to pay homage to its great leader.
PVV is an all together different animal its pretty much cleaned house and has broad appeal and with Geert at the helm I expect them to go far, Mr Wilders does appear to me to be socially on the left of the political spectrum and this has done him no harm at all as has his dislike of FN and Vlaams Belang.
 
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So on which end of the spectrum to you place the BNP and SD? More on the Geert end or the Le Pen end?
I have to be honest I know little about the Sverigedemokraterna but I would place the BNP further to the right than FN, the FN are somewhat uncomfortable with the Vichy and the Holocaust and would rather deny or obscure historical facts the BNP however are chock full of 3rd Reich fanboys.
 
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Its almost embarrassing that you post docuvids created by the Christian Broadcasting Network founded and controlled by a man who believed Hurricane Katrina was punishment by God for the USA's abortion policies, and that the Haiti earthquake was caused by the locals pact with the devil. You would be as well posting vids by Islam4u as they are about as relevant as this tripe. You tell me Trader666 about your experiences in Paris, were you oppressed by dark Islamic forces. For me it was the pain in the ass mime artist that danced around me that got up my hump when I was last there.
 
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Its almost embarrassing that you post docuvids created by the Christian Broadcasting Network founded and controlled by a man who believed Hurricane Katrina was punishment by God for the USA's abortion policies, and that the Haiti earthquake was caused by the locals pact with the devil. You would be as well posting vids by Islam4u as they are about as relevant as this tripe. You tell me Trader666 about your experiences in Paris, were you oppressed by dark Islamic forces. For me it was the pain in the ass mime artist that danced around me that got up my hump when I was last there.


many who post this propaganda probably think long distance travel is a mile outside of their zip code.
 
But the BNP is maybe has voiced strong support for Israel, and has numerous Jewish members, even council seat holders in Essex, do they not? I'm not sure, but I don't think this could be said of FN. I don't ever remember hearing Le Pen say he supported Israel in it's struggle against Islamic terror, like Griffin has, or that he considers Jews a natural ally in this struggle, like Griffin has.

I'm sure there are certain individual party members with said views, but I guess I'm having trouble understanding your casting of the party in this light given the aforementioned facts, particularly in contrast to Le Pen's FN.

Quote from Dragons Teeth:

I have to be honest I know little about the Sverigedemokraterna but I would place the BNP further to the right than FN, the FN are somewhat uncomfortable with the Vichy and the Holocaust and would rather deny or obscure historical facts the BNP however are chock full of 3rd Reich fanboys.
 
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But the BNP is maybe has voiced strong support for Israel, and has numerous Jewish members, even council seat holders in Essex, do they not? I'm not sure, but I don't think this could be said of FN. I don't ever remember hearing Le Pen say he supported Israel in it's struggle against Islamic terror, like Griffin has, or that he considers Jews a natural ally in this struggle, like Griffin has.

I'm sure there are certain individual party members with said views, but I guess I'm having trouble understanding your casting of the party in this light given the aforementioned facts, particularly in contrast to Le Pen's FN.
Nick Griffin on Gas Chambers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Dygboz4Ew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X8QQwU00Jk

Patricia Richardson won a council seat in Essex yes she was Jewish but the BNP's claims of widespread support and membership were dashed when the members list was leaked. The BNP are the only ones claiming support amongst the Jewish community though the EDL seems to have a following within elements of the JDL (not that big in the UK).The British Board of Deputies, the CST, Zionist Federation and the Israeli Embassy have all voiced concern on the motives of both the BNP and the EDL. The odd random pro Israel statement from the BNP is nothing more than a deflection.
 
Fair enough, but that is about 15 years old.

Here is Griffin now, proclaiming that he no longer has those specific views and that he was misinformed/misguided:

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Which goes back to my point about how it seems that Nationalist parties are outgrowing jew and masonic conspiracy theories. Perhaps not, but it seems that way...

Can you articulate anymore on the EDL/JDL connection or provide a link to more information on it? From what I can find, it seems that they have some enmity towards each other:

"The response from the Jewish Defence League was unequivocal: not only were they "disgusted" and "revolted" to receive the request; they made it clear to the EDL that they would "stand proudly with Muslims, our fellow children of Abraham, in the fight against Muslim hatred, in defence of their mosques, family & faith".

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news...m-Bristol/article-1376922-detail/article.html

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Nick Griffin on Gas Chambers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Dygboz4Ew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X8QQwU00Jk

Patricia Richardson won a council seat in Essex yes she was Jewish but the BNP's claims of widespread support and membership were dashed when the members list was leaked. The BNP are the only ones claiming support amongst the Jewish community though the EDL seems to have a following within elements of the JDL (not that big in the UK).The British Board of Deputies, the CST, Zionist Federation and the Israeli Embassy have all voiced concern on the motives of both the BNP and the EDL. The odd random pro Israel statement from the BNP is nothing more than a deflection.
 
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Fair enough, but that is about 15 years old.

Here is Griffin now, proclaiming that he no longer has those specific views and that he was misinformed/misguided:




Can you articulate anymore on the EDL/JDL connection or provide a link to more information on it? From what I can find, it seems that they have some enmity towards each other:
The JDL in the UK do not sing with one voice and I cannot provide any further info other than what I got "word of mouth".
The Canadian JDL have voiced support for the EDL http://www.jewishtribune.ca/Tribune...ress-at-odds-over-English-Defence-League.html

Islam is the cause du jour at the moment within the BNP but fear not the old enemies of the 3rd Position still come under regular attack. I find Griffins claim that he was misinformed really funny as he was taught the very same national curriclum as I.
 
Zero content "rebuttal." About what I thought you'd post. Is Reuters a subsidiary of CBN?
http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-54138020110113
Quote from Dragons Teeth:

Its almost embarrassing that you post docuvids created by the Christian Broadcasting Network founded and controlled by a man who believed Hurricane Katrina was punishment by God for the USA's abortion policies, and that the Haiti earthquake was caused by the locals pact with the devil. You would be as well posting vids by Islam4u as they are about as relevant as this tripe. You tell me Trader666 about your experiences in Paris, were you oppressed by dark Islamic forces. For me it was the pain in the ass mime artist that danced around me that got up my hump when I was last there.
 
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Zero content "rebuttal." About what I thought you'd post.
I for one do not believe that you think beyond your next breath. Oh and the video you started the thread with in case you did not notice has the CBN mark in the upper right hand corner of the screen and Dale Hurd is a CBN regular.
 
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