ISLAM Says Thou Shall Torture!

BernardRichards · May 10, 2009

Quote from TorontoTrader2:

This is considered a democracy? More like a barbaric racist tribal state:

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Now you are talking from experience TorontoTrader2 because you talk falsely like a violent bigoted Arab propagandist, and you come from a barbaric racist tribal state.

BTW, since you seem to be a religious scholar as well in your reference to Jesus in a previous post, how do you like this quote from Genesis 16:12 which makes explicit the character of the Arabs?

And he (Ishmael the forefather of the Arabs) shall be a wild ass of a man (loving the wilderness and the hunt): his hand shall be against every man (This is a reference to his descendants who would make war with all people.) and every man's hand against him (and all the descendants of his brothers would similarly make war against them). Don't forget that the US is a microcosm of the world so if the US is fighting against the Arabs one may say that the entire world is fighting against the Arabs.

Now you can accuse the Bible as being racist towards the Arabs as well -- not just Israel and the US!

BernardRichards · May 10, 2009

Quote from TorontoTrader2:

Eitan Fellner, head of the Israeli human rights group B'Tselem, says that "torture became a bureaucratic routine in all Shin Bet interrogation centers. We estimate that 85 percent of Palestinian detainees were tortured, though many were later released without a charge." In other words, there are tens of thousands of Palestinians who made confessions under torture that are now presumably invalid, and who are entitled to redress.

Truth be told, the torture issue in Israel does not reflect much glory on many human rights organizations. In the 1980s Amnesty International shirked the issue both before and after the Landau Commission, despite the efforts of people such as Professor Francis Boyle of the University of Illinois, who campaigned fiercely to make it take a stance. I talked to Boyle after the latest decision. "It's about time," he said and then recalled traveling to Israel in the mid-eighties to raise with Israeli officials the question of Nuremberg accountability for what Israel was doing to the Palestinians.

We all know that the Palestinian Arabs are nice peaceful people that blow themselves up to kill as many unarmed civilians as possible. Why in the world would anyone want to be rough with such nice people beats me!

BernardRichards · May 10, 2009

Quote from 426653478:

... uncivil disrespectful language ...

426653478 I respect your right to disagree with the opinions of others on this thread, but if you can't express yourself in a civil manner then you are polluting my thread with filth. I can not tolerate that so welcome to my ignore list!

426653478 · May 10, 2009

Quote from a_person:

it's truly amazing how some people can't see the difference between the necessary evil of torturing the Osama Bin Ladens of the world not to punish them for the crimes they have committed but to extract information to prevent future Beslans, Balis and 9/11s...and immorality of abusing power and torturing people as revenge and punishment for alleged financial/business machinations or similar inconsequential actions.

This is not to say that we should resort to torture or that it should be legalized but conflating these two completely different scenarios is just plain stupid, I fully expect it from TorontoTrader2 of course but other posters should certainly be smarter than that.

there is no reason for me to try and prove you wrong, I wasn't born to educate anyone or to help anyone shed their naive shell

I care not about this country or that country, they have all been nothing but misery to me, I only want to see the doors of hell open up upon this planet

426653478 · May 10, 2009

Quote from BernardRichards:

426653478 I respect your right to disagree with the opinions of others on this thread, but if you can't express yourself in a civil manner then you are polluting my thread with filth. I can not tolerate that so welcome to my ignore list!

typical american attitude, inability to tolerate the truth leads him to deny and ignore, which is only going to speed up his fall into the trashcan with the rest of the trash like him

a_person · May 10, 2009

Quote from 426653478:

I wasn't born to educate anyone

That's quite obvious from your posts but i am glad you are at least able to recognize your limitations.

426653478 · May 10, 2009

Quote from a_person:

That's quite obvious from your posts but i am glad you are at least able to recognize your limitations.

and I wouldn't ever want to remove that limitation I find no use for it

I'd rather focus my energy on something that actually pays off

a_person · May 10, 2009

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I'd rather focus my energy on something that actually pays off

Good thinking, you certainly have my blessing but please keep in mind that posting anonymously on internet forums almost never pays off.

BernardRichards · May 10, 2009

Now this is the way to handle torture. Boys and girls don't try this at home with the exception of Sameeh, ARealGannTrader, Optional777, and TorontoTrader2 so you can meet your 72 beautiful dark eyed virgins post haste. I'll throw in my 72 beautiful virgins for you guys too so you can split them four ways -- that is 18 apiece for a total of 90 exquisite dark eyed virgins for each of you. What more could you ask for?

Halftime Horror - Houdini Water Torture Cell Gone Bad - Kristen Johnson

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426653478 · May 10, 2009

Quote from a_person:

Good thinking, you certainly have my blessing but please keep in mind that posting anonymously on internet forums almost never pays off.

posting requires almost no energy in comparison to trying to educate the morons humans are

but basically doing random shit that never pay off is still better than trying to be of benefit to a bunch of useless humans who will never be able to pay you back for your help