Islam doesn't belong in a civilized country

Maverick1 said:
If the Koran says to love our enemies, why then does it prescribe death or 100 lashes for the adulterer who is barely an enemy?



It doesn't, see post #36. The Bible doesn't say stone the adulterer or give them 100 lashes (as the Koran does) but instead Christ fulfills the law, meaning He brings it to maturity and completes it where it was lacking. He teaches that love of God and neighbor is the highest commandment. His new commandment is that we would love one another as He loved us. That is why the New Covenant is superior to the old one.

Regarding judgment, it is the just punishment of the wicked who refuse the grace, mercy and love of God and persist in their hatred and harm of others. See the parable in #42.
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The highest command for me is to love myself and care my family, and shoot the neighbor if he acts like dog.I think God would agree with me.
 
Maverick1 said:
If the Koran says to love our enemies, why then does it prescribe death or 100 lashes for the adulterer who is barely an enemy?
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If the Bible says love your enemies, why then does it prescribe death for those that don't accept being reigned over who are hardly anything like an enemy anyway?

Maverick1 said:
The Bible doesn't say stone the adulterer or give them 100 lashes (as the Koran does)
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The Bible says those who will not be dominated and ruled over are to be killed.


Both the Bible and the Koran books do exactly the same thing. They both promise and they both threaten in much the same way.
 
stu said:
If the Bible says love your enemies, why then does it prescribe death for those that don't accept being reigned over who are hardly anything like an enemy anyway?



The Bible says those who will not be dominated and ruled over are to be killed.


Both the Bible and the Koran books do exactly the same thing. They both promise and they both threaten in much the same way.
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Love your HEAD, dude! That was exactly what Jesus told('Love your God(Head,actually or Brain,if you like.) wholeheartedly, like you`d love yourself.'

Head = God.When your gone your head is gone either.What`s left?Think about it.

Bible and Koran throw down the toilet.
 
fordewind said:
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Bible ... throw down the toilet.
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I might be missing something, as I absolutely do not understand your point of view.
From the little I know, people in the know spend decades studying the Bible ( PhD, post docs, etc),
and those people are very cautious when "interpreting" the Bible.

For one : "the Bible says love your enemy": is that's all?
What about some cases, where the "enemy" has friends much more 'powerful' than yours,
and you missed the chance to make peace, and down the road one of your enemy's friends is the
only one that can solve your problem?

I believe that people just pick and choose what they want from the Bible.
If they were honest, they'd just say that they are doing so.
 
smallStops said:
I might be missing something, as I absolutely do not understand your point of view.
From the little I know, people in the know spend decades studying the Bible ( PhD, post docs, etc),
and those people are very cautious when "interpreting" the Bible.

For one : "the Bible says love your enemy": is that's all?
What about some cases, where the "enemy" has friends much more 'powerful' than yours,
and you missed the chance to make peace, and down the road one of your enemy's friends is the
only one that can solve your problem?

I believe that people just pick and choose what they want from the Bible.
If they were honest, they'd just say that they are doing so.
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I`ve also spent some time studying diff kind of scriptures, and i actually have no idea why PhD`s are so cautious interpreting the Bible.The Bible was rewritten umptenth of times,fyi...The church preachers are no better, they couldn`t even answer me what the Farther,the Son, and the Holy spirit are!I heard some bullshit num of times about the pigeon sitting on the right shoulder...blahhhh...etc...But that`s just a pure nonsense!

Ok, go off, find your local church and ask the preacher what the father, the son, and the holy spirit are???Then come back to me and i`ll explain it to you.......Or, try t think it through.What.....The..... Holy.... Trinity.....Really....Is.Get it through your head, if you can...

Your last paragraph is just another bollox about some one that more powerful then you ...blahh.Another bullshit that 'someone' that is superior than you.Your the one that the most powerful,granted with the most outrageous device possible, and not realizing that!

All the religions is just the way to put you in the brackets, and to control you.If you stick to any of those, you`ll never get out of that eternal circling.
 
Not all priest, pastors are the same : the quality of their training makes a difference.
I , too , had to deal with "bullshit" religious people. Now, I know better.

The exemple I gave -given to me actually : now, if someone said to you , 'ok he is your enemy, and that's the situation : your mum is ill, and his uncle is a top surgeon on this disease and he kind of choose who he operates on. How likely, are you going to go your way to start making peace with your enemy, or even finish by loving your enemy"?
 
Toilet is the proper place for all those nonsense 'scriptures'...

The Military psychiatrists are way way way better, than preachers, religions, and other fucking bullshit, if you want to fine tune your mind to whatever your interests are, b/c you are only driven by your interests, and you are here to fulfil your interests.That`s the only reason.Imagine i ask you, 'let`s go fishing',if your not interested, what would your answer be?Obvious...

Find out your interests and find some proper military psychiatrists to help you to develop them to the fullest.
 
smallStops said:
and who/what has "programmed" your interests?
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it`s You.And you only.When the interests are gone,you`ll no longer be here and merge, with what some call 'the collective conscious'.If interests gather to the point called 'human' again,you`ll appear here again.Isn`t it great!God`s settled an 'interesting' life for us!!!!!!!!!!
 
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