ISIS and beheadings...

I've gotten a lot of mileage out of these hypocritical rightie (but I repeat myself) positions. A party utterly unfit to lead.

Particularly since fewer than 80 have been in the service (and most likely fewer than that have seen combat, and even fewer, if any, have been officers and so have no experience in planning a military campaign). They are therefore uniquely unqualified to offer any substantive advice at all.

And I don't see a rush among the GI Joes to enlist and actually participate.

Ran across a statistic that 71% of the public has no idea what the problems of active military and veterans are.
 
Particularly since fewer than 80 have been in the service (and most likely fewer than that have seen combat, and even fewer, if any, have been officers and so have no experience in planning a military campaign). They are therefore uniquely unqualified to offer any substantive advice at all.

And I don't see a rush among the GI Joes to enlist and actually participate.

Ran across a statistic that 71% of the public has no idea what the problems of active military and veterans are.

Lots of vets among the "GI Joes" as you refer to on this forum. Did you serve?
 
Particularly since fewer than 80 have been in the service (and most likely fewer than that have seen combat, and even fewer, if any, have been officers and so have no experience in planning a military campaign). They are therefore uniquely unqualified to offer any substantive advice at all.

And I don't see a rush among the GI Joes to enlist and actually participate.

Ran across a statistic that 71% of the public has no idea what the problems of active military and veterans are.
That's all true, but a bit of a wash since it's always the case.
 
That's all true, but a bit of a wash since it's always the case.

It is now. But 40 years ago, anyone with sons had personal knowledge of what military life was like. They also often knew, sadly, personal loss. Or at least they knew someone -- friend, relative -- who had someone in service. And the fact that the Viet Nam War was the first to be televised had an enormous impact. Some say that hastened the end. Bush and Cheney were smart to prevent filming the bodies as they arrived back in the US during our most recent effort. If people have no personal stake, why should they care? It's all happening to somebody else.

Be that as it may, now you have a congress full of people who know nothing of war other than what they've seen in the movies, and too many of them fancy themselves as Rambo.
 
It is now. But 40 years ago, anyone with sons had personal knowledge of what military life was like. They also often knew, sadly, personal loss. Or at least they knew someone -- friend, relative -- who had someone in service. And the fact that the Viet Nam War was the first to be televised had an enormous impact. Some say that hastened the end. Bush and Cheney were smart to prevent filming the bodies as they arrived back in the US during our most recent effort. If people have no personal stake, why should they care? It's all happening to somebody else.

Be that as it may, now you have a congress full of people who know nothing of war other than what they've seen in the movies, and too many of them fancy themselves as Rambo.
Fair enough.
 
Fair enough.

At the time, I was happy to see the draft go, but be careful what you wish for. I often wonder what we've lost by not forcing young men into service, particularly the poor. They learned to read, they learned skills, they learned at least some discipline and something about responsibility. And everybody was forced to live and work together, regardless of where they came from or what religion they were or what race or ethnic group or color (it was interesting to watch the southern boys faced with living with negroes for the first time :)).

Now, of course, the public would never go for it. But I can't help but think that all sorts of problems might be less so if it were reinstituted.
 
Db, you finally post something that makes sense, then you ruin it with a swipe at southern boys. You clearly have never lived in the rural south, and certainly not among the working class. They have a lot more experience living and working among blacks than some liberal in NYC. Your only interaction with blacks is probably when you get a porter at the airport.
 
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