As usual Citiboy 12 you are spot on. I rode a wave and made a great deal of money out of IPOs during an exceptionally lucky period. All of your points and all of your posts are spot on. But no good ever comes of arguing with people on trading forums who have fooled themselves like these people here have. You are wasting your time and energy. Just laugh as I have done and move on. You are wasting your time and energy on these people.Thank you for your response. I would agree that trading (if you are consistent and profitable) would be one of the elite professions. I agree that the odds are lower compared to a high risk of failure. I would argue that other elite professions are a better trade such as becoming a writer or starting a business.
There are a couple issues, however. I have found that successful traders have not, in fact, often been traders in the conventional sense and I know of no examples who have started from a retail trading background.
They have been, for example.
1. Insider dealers
2. Salespeople
3. Selling risk-free financial services e.g.education, brokerage fees etc
4. Business owners - exploiting their staff
5. 'Gaming' the system e.g. loudly proclaiming wins and forgetting about losses or rolling up losing funds into winning ones.
6. Rode external waves eg a commodities boom
etc
In other words, Bruce Lee spoke about the ..'the art of fighting without fighting'...maybe the secret to becoming a successful trader is ...'not to trade.' At least not in the conventional sense.
Some of them don't ask questions at all.