Quote from walterjennings:
This is no logic or supporting evidence behind this statement. You are obviously only versed in directional bet day trading. There are many ways to trade in this economy.

Quote from ElectricSavant:
The existence of trend disproves this....the market is not random...
so I put to you...am i better for knowing this/ or do I wait for the best time to calculate a "not gambling" approach? and fight off the gambling impulse...
Quote from ElectricSavant:
28,
When you get your zero line cross and your 5 minutes into the trade with some profit, and you get a stall...but your longer time fram says your good to go for more, but you get a stall.....so you put on another side with another Broker and you leave both open...
scenario...the price goes down and you grab a 10 minute profit on the short side...then it turns and the other side continued up...
Were you gambling? or using time and movement efficiently?

Quote from Trader28Lite:
Thats probability and even if we took it to a subatomic level you would see there are no 100% calculations, quantum physicists hate it but every now and then an electron will do something unpredictable... and thats the very nature of REALITY
Quote from Trader28Lite:
The logic is self evident and you cant refute it because you cant produce a risk free, chance free, impossible to lose way to make money through trading... or else everyone would be doing it![]()
Saying 'it doesn't exist because if it did everybody would be doing it' isn't a reasonable argument. btw. firms are doing it 
Quote from walterjennings:
I thought I did produce a risk free example with the widgets.
And for future referance. Absense of evidence is not evidence of absence... RumsfeldSaying 'it does'nt exist because if it did everybody would be doing it' isint a reasonable arguement. btw. firms are doing it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance