Is Tim Cook A Traitor?

I have that on my iphone, it has to be enabled. After 10 failed attempts to enter the password it will erase all personal data, it's also my understanding that it will limit the time between attempts past a certain number.

But again, Cook said he would take the phone to Apple labs and extract the info. Apparently that's not good enough?

I wasn't aware he had said that. I'm sure there would have to be some government people there watching the operation and monitoring what went on. Seems like a fair compromise though.
 
I wasn't aware he had said that. I'm sure there would have to be some government people there watching the operation and monitoring what went on. Seems like a fair compromise though.
Well I say that? A couple of days ago I caught just a part of Cook being interviewed, I thought he stated they would comply but all software, tech stuff would remain in Apple's control and destroyed immeadeatly and the Fed's balked at the idea. I can't find any link where he said that... So take it with a grain of salt for the moment.

Here's a good piece from Time that explains Apple's stance, pending legal issues and what's transpired to date.
http://time.com/4262480/tim-cook-apple-fbi-2/
 
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HIllary Clinton says shifting corporate profits offshore is 'gaming the system and unfair' and it's about 'patriotism'. I guess the only way you can take that statement is that she is saying that it is unpatriotic to shift income offshore.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...-earnings-stripping-by-corporate-tax-avoiders



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How is it that rich, high profile democrats don't have to live by their party's principals.
 
You can tap a phone with a signature. Pen register requires even less, yet this cake boy won't unlock the phone of a dead terrorist.
 
Can't tell if the FBI is stupid or playing politics. The card with the encrypted info can be removed from the phone and that will remove the restrictions. Once removed the FBI can have at it all they want. I'm sure Tim Cook knows this and is using the occasion to prove to his loyal fans that he will never betray their encryption trust. I thought that John McCafee was deluded when he said he would crack it but with what I now know, probably I could crack it.

I find it difficult to care what the Public Sector does after they were warned by Russia about the Boston Bombers and were debating whether to vett immigrants by Social Media posts when they let the San Bernardino shooters in the country [and gave them employment even]. How can anybody be termed a traitor if an organization is that stupid... it's like being a traitor to your kindergarten class...
 
I have that on my iphone, it has to be enabled. After 10 failed attempts to enter the password it will erase all personal data, it's also my understanding that it will limit the time between attempts past a certain number.

But again, Cook said he would take the phone to Apple labs and extract the info. Apparently that's not good enough?

Cook never agreed that he would take the phone to the Apple labs and extract the data. In fact he explicitly rejected doing this.
 
Cook never agreed that he would take the phone to the Apple labs and extract the data. In fact he explicitly rejected doing this.

I commented to AAA that I may have been mistaken on that, was at the desk, an interview with Cook was on the TV playing in the background (must have been the ABC from the other day) and I thought he agreed. Watched that interview last night and he flat out said "no way".

My bad, apologies for the confusion.
 
No problem, it's a confusing situation and what you suggested would have been a very reasonable way to handle it. Cook is displaying very poor judgment in my opinion. He has taken an extreme and very rigid position and styled it as a make or break principle. He seems to be giving zero weight to the countervailing values at play, eg protecting his fellow citizens from terrorist attacks. This will look very bad if there is another attack and it could have been foiled by using the info on the phone.

Now it is being reported that an Israeli firm has come forward and said it can do the job. Doubly bad for Cook, as now the genie is out of the bottle and he has lost control of it.

As an AAPL holder, I have been underwhelmed by Cook's leadership since he took over. Basically the company is dead in the water. Now instead of something useful, we get a nasty political fight that he has fomented that puts them on the side of terrorists. Time for a new CEO.
 
AAPL aside (especially marketing. When you think about it, what is better? To be called a traitor or to let your customers know when you own an iphone nobody, not even Tim Cook can get inside of it) it is a confusing issue to a non tech non iphone user like me. Seems like forcing the builder of a house to open up the house after he has already sold it when he promised the new owner of the house the he had the only key and even the builder can't open the door.

So the FBI tells Tim the builder that the owner of the house is suspected to have evidence stored in the house and it is ok to violate his promise to the former (now dead) customer.
 
ET, the phone was not owned by the terrorist. It was owned by his employer, a local government agency. He is dead in any event, so his privacy rights died with him. The phone companies are constantly subject to orders to assist wiretapping. How is this any different?
 
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