Is Tim Cook A Traitor?

I suppose it's unfair to single him out, as another thread exposed just how evil some of his compatriots in Silicon Valley are. Still, he chose to take a high profile stance on behalf of protecting the encrypted communications of a murderous terrorist.

I see little justification for his position. The phone belonged to the terrorist's employer, so under settled law they have a right to anything on it. That fact alone erases any concerns over the terrorist's right to privacy. Moreover, a dead terrorist and mass murderer retains no privacy rights over something used in planning his crime.

So what is Cook's objection? Apparently he claims that helping his own government investigate an act of terrorism and potentially uncover other terrorists would somehow represent a breach of faith with other users who use encryption. But how? He is raising the specter of letting the genie of decryption out of the bottle. How reasonable is this? And it is his decision to make? In effect, he is using his control of technology to dictate law. I think if a Swiss banker or pharmaceutical company were doing the same thing, most of us would be outraged. Cook however is largely getting a pass, both from the government and the media.

In earlier times, I would hate to see the reaction of a Harry Truman or an Eisenhower to this sort of defiance, or a Rudy Guiliani after 9/11 for that matter. Truman after all sent in troops to take control of the steel mills. Ike sent federal troops to coerce the governors of southern states to accept school desegregation dictates from federal courts. Arguably neither matter posed the sort of risks impeding an ongoing anti-terror investigation does.

For better or worse, Cook's legacy as the successor of Steve Jobs will be determined by this entirely avoidable dispute. It's not like his leadership of Apple has been noteworthy or outstanding in any way whatsoever. If I were an Apple board member, I think I would be drawing up a short list of replacements. Cook's judgment on this has been so wayward that it calls into question his fitness to lead the company.
 
@AAAintheBeltway

This issue is all about the government wanting a legal precedent, not about this phone. The NSA can probably crack the encryption today. So why is the DOJ jumping on Apple with both feet? A legal precedent so they can further erode everyones rights.

Apple is right to give them the middle finger.
 
Since the FBI decided to vacate the hearing and the judge stayed the order, how could he be a traitor? If anything this is proving that Apple was not needed to get access to the phone from the start.

Maybe the FBI was afraid of losing and setting a precedent against their position.

Apple should sue the government under the DMCA for hacking the phone :)
 
@AAAintheBeltway

This issue is all about the government wanting a legal precedent, not about this phone. The NSA can probably crack the encryption today. So why is the DOJ jumping on Apple with both feet? A legal precedent so they can further erode everyones rights.

Apple is right to give them the middle finger.

Why would it erode everyone's rights? The terrorist has or had no legal rights in anything on the phone. Even if it had been his own personal phone, it is subject to search and seizure per the usual rules of criminal procedure. There is no legal exception to search and seizure rules if you happen to have access to encryption.

You are suggesting, as has Apple, that opening this guy's phone makes everyone's encrypted phone vulnerable, but why is that? It's not like they are publishing the code on the internet. It's not even clear to me that the government is asking for the code, just for Apple to open it up.

I'm not looking for an argument here, just some reasoned discussion. I want to understand the issue a little better. What if the fear was that the terrorist had hidden chemical weapons or was about top detonate a nuke? Would that change things?

Frankly, I am stunned that Cook would elevate what seems to be a pretty theoretical problem into a defense against assisting in a terrorist investigation. I would have thought he would have volunteered help. I guess it does help to illustrate how little loyalty these tech titans feel for our country.

This is not some tax issue or regulatory dispute. Speed is essential in these investigations. Delay gives the other terrorists time to cover their tracks or disappear or, as seems to have happened in Belgium, time to set off pending plots. Apple is taking a big risk here. If, for example, it turns out that the phone contained info that would have prevented a future attack, it's hard to see how blood isn't on Cook's hands. I wouldn't want to be him in those circumstances.
 
It's my understanding Apple said they would crack and remove the information from the phone and give it to the FBI, they said no. The FBI wants Apple to write software that would allow them to crack the phone.

Apple said that any software capable of bypassing their security would eventually be leaked and undermine their Company.

It's not about the information. Government wants to be able to see in, get around your security and break your encryption.
 
I do understand that there is a bigger issue and that the government has been pressing for years to get backdoors into secure communications.

It's not even the encryption either. The phone apparently has a device that will erase the memory if there are multiple failed attempts to access it. That is what they want to bypass.

My advice to Cook is to resolve this quickly because he does want not to be making this argument to President Donald Trump and Attorney General Christie.
 
Since the FBI decided to vacate the hearing and the judge stayed the order, how could he be a traitor? If anything this is proving that Apple was not needed to get access to the phone from the start.

Maybe the FBI was afraid of losing and setting a precedent against their position.

Apple should sue the government under the DMCA for hacking the phone :)

Yes but after how many weeks? Speed is crucial in this type of investigation. It is not a criminal investigation where they are trying to build a case. it is an investigation into active terror cells. Big difference.

I can't imagine another industry where the CEO of the leading company would defy the government in a terror investigation to try to play hero to paranoid techies. I am more anti-government than 90% of the people on here and I find Cook's approach appalling.
 
I do understand that there is a bigger issue and that the government has been pressing for years to get backdoors into secure communications.

It's not even the encryption either. The phone apparently has a device that will erase the memory if there are multiple failed attempts to access it. That is what they want to bypass.

My advice to Cook is to resolve this quickly because he does want not to be making this argument to President Donald Trump and Attorney General Christie.
I have that on my iphone, it has to be enabled. After 10 failed attempts to enter the password it will erase all personal data, it's also my understanding that it will limit the time between attempts past a certain number.

But again, Cook said he would take the phone to Apple labs and extract the info. Apparently that's not good enough?
 
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