Is this why Alan Greenspan and Bush wanted to privatize Social Security?

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

You had the "option" to do what ever you wanted. By stocks. Buy Treasuries. Do nothing. Also you're SS contribution would've had portability to heirs.

And how disastorous would that have been!? Oh my god, everyone would have been watch Mad Money every night and getting killed lol.

And would people be hiring investment strategists? How much of a cut do they get? How good are half these investors anyways? I think people's retirements should be more secure then that. Even if it wouldn't end up being the DREAM retirement they imagined. Just being able to retire should be dream enough.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

You had the "option" to do what ever you wanted. By stocks. Buy Treasuries. Do nothing. Also you're SS contribution would've had portability to heirs.

Id rather SS be private and all my investment in LEH stock. At least if i died my heirs would get .17 at todays price.

I forgot about the portability feature. thas nice
 
Do people see fixed income as "secure" somehow? It's extremely risky, you are gambling against inflation and occasionally inflation is hyperinflation and people on fixed incomes starve, literally.

SSI as it is, is not even a savings account, it is a transfer of money from your paycheck to somebody else. It's the forced investment that guarantees zero return, not even your principal is saved up for you or your heirs... but it got a lot of black votes starting back in the 30's for the Democrats and still does so it's still the third rail of politics..
 
Quote from Fractals 'R Us:

Do people see fixed income as "secure" somehow? It's extremely risky, you are gambling against inflation and occasionally inflation is hyperinflation and people on fixed incomes starve, literally.

SSI as it is, is not even a savings account, it is a transfer of money from your paycheck to somebody else. It's the forced investment that guarantees zero return, not even your principal is saved up for you or your heirs... but it got a lot of black votes starting back in the 30's for the Democrats and still does so it's still the third rail of politics..


Social Security is the Third Rail of American Politics because WHITE, ELDERLY VOTERS have made it so.

Period.

G_d help the politician that mentions taking Social Security away, or altering it in any meaningful way. The blue hairs will slay them on the steps of the Capitol Building, and consume their innards.
 
Quote from bxptone:

And put people's retirements into the stock market? TO PROP IT UP. Again the more I read about banking 101, the Federal Reserve, debt, etc (most of which I knew about already just now everything coming to LIFE), did the powers that be know what was coming, a complete market upheaval?

I was always suspect as to why the certain people would want to put others RETIREMENT money, into a market that has crashed more the once, twice, three times.... throughout it's history. And then I was reading about how govt's try to instill fear into civillians to get things passed cough*bailout*cough, and when I was reading the link below, my conspiracy theory bells went off when I remember how Allan Greenspan, orchestrator of the 1% fed funds rate forever which has led us to where we are, was trying to scare everyone into thinking SS was going bankrupt. Haven't heard a peep about SS going bakrupt since then. This link is a little childish but I like it!

http://www.hermes-press.com/sss1.htm




mcinsane's privatization attempts is worse than bush
 
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