is this what we have to look towards government healthcare
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I just addressed this. First off, the study of infant mortality, perinatal and prenatal mortality has nothing do with "rankings" and nothing to do with your article.
Secondly, the excuses presented in the article don't apply to this anyway. Please see my above post. The US simply cannot compete on any level with the UK or Canada in terms of maternal mortality, perinatal mortality, neonatal mortality, or prenatal mortality.
Your article is with respect to country rankings, a different study of a different thing, and contains reasoning which does not apply.
Does the study take racial differences into account?
Seattle has 8x the amount of africans than Vancouver.
Black 13.6% per 1000 births
White 5.8%
You don't think the african american number skews the figure a bit in Canada's favour?
Many people were shocked when a 2006 report detailed that the US infant mortality rate ranked second highest in the world, among developed countries. Further, statistics regarding this rate showed disturbing patterns. Infant mortality rate was much higher in the US among minorities, and was connected often to not only deaths for infants but also health risks to mothers.
You will also see that those countries with the lowest rates have very little if any african populations. I personally would not catagorize a black person from the us the same as a black person from africa.
Seattle has 8x the amount of africans than Vancouver.
Black 13.6% per 1000 births
White 5.8%
You don't think the african american number skews the figure a bit in Canada's favour?
Many people were shocked when a 2006 report detailed that the US infant mortality rate ranked second highest in the world, among developed countries. Further, statistics regarding this rate showed disturbing patterns. Infant mortality rate was much higher in the US among minorities, and was connected often to not only deaths for infants but also health risks to mothers.
You will also see that those countries with the lowest rates have very little if any african populations. I personally would not catagorize a black person from the us the same as a black person from africa.
It's difficult to get an even comparison give that all countries do not use the same definition.
Statistically, the US could have a 0% infant mortality rate if we changed the definition to it's favour.
Hence, the statistics are meaningless.
The infant mortality rate correlates very strongly with and is among the best predictors of state failure.[4] IMR is also a useful indicator of a country's level of health or development, and is a component of the physical quality of life index. But the method of calculating IMR often varies widely between countries based on the way they define a live birth and how many premature infants are born in the country. The World Health Organization (WHO) defines a live birth as any born human being who demonstrates independent signs of life, including breathing, voluntary muscle movement, or heartbeat. Many countries, however, including certain European states and Japan, only count as live births cases where an infant breathes at birth, which makes their reported IMR numbers somewhat lower and raises their rates of perinatal mortality.[5]
The exclusion of any high-risk infants from the denominator or numerator in reported IMRs can be problematic for comparisons. Many countries, including the United States, Sweden or Germany, count an infant exhibiting any sign of life as alive, no matter the month of gestation or the size, but according to United States Centers for Disease Control researchers,[6] some other countries differ in these practices. All of the countries named adopted the WHO definitions in the late 1980s or early 1990s,[7] which are used throughout the European Union.[
Statistically, the US could have a 0% infant mortality rate if we changed the definition to it's favour.
Hence, the statistics are meaningless.
The infant mortality rate correlates very strongly with and is among the best predictors of state failure.[4] IMR is also a useful indicator of a country's level of health or development, and is a component of the physical quality of life index. But the method of calculating IMR often varies widely between countries based on the way they define a live birth and how many premature infants are born in the country. The World Health Organization (WHO) defines a live birth as any born human being who demonstrates independent signs of life, including breathing, voluntary muscle movement, or heartbeat. Many countries, however, including certain European states and Japan, only count as live births cases where an infant breathes at birth, which makes their reported IMR numbers somewhat lower and raises their rates of perinatal mortality.[5]
The exclusion of any high-risk infants from the denominator or numerator in reported IMRs can be problematic for comparisons. Many countries, including the United States, Sweden or Germany, count an infant exhibiting any sign of life as alive, no matter the month of gestation or the size, but according to United States Centers for Disease Control researchers,[6] some other countries differ in these practices. All of the countries named adopted the WHO definitions in the late 1980s or early 1990s,[7] which are used throughout the European Union.[
Are you that much of a blatant idiot?
A dead baby is a dead baby.We have the highest infant mortality rate of all g8 nations.So much for all the jesus idiots on this thread who say liberals dont care about babies.Looks like its the right wingers who are anti life since they are anti healthcare.GOP=assinine asses.Why do right wingers insist on supporting things that favor corporations but goes against their own interest like good wages,unions,healthcare?An incredibly stupid segment of the population.More proof the educational system needs to be drastically improved.
This may come as a shock to you, but Vancouver has a very high percentage of minorities.
But it doesn't matter at all. You can compare outcomes for US whites against all Canadians, including minorities, and the US health care system still loses out.
