Is This What ET Has Become?

[qxr1011]

Not here often, but a quick scan of the headlines shows people unwilling to do any work. Here are but a few examples:

Here's a guy who wants scan parameters given to him. Never mind the long process of discovering which parameters might be best for you;
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/stock-scans.323073/

Here a guy with "no time to waste" who simply wants someone to hand him a sure-fire recipe for trading:
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/how-do-you-trade-es-nq.323084/

Here's another guy that simply wants to be told what to do, and this is one of many such threads from this poster (a guy I know tried to help him, but his advice was ignored):
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/how-do-i-trade-forex-futures.323081/

And the beat goes on...

Many people have tried to genuinely help with such thoughtless inquiries; they are clearly better people than I. All I want from such posters is for them to trade and provide liquidity (become food) in my markets.

I'll add one small comment for such people. I was a futures floor trader in the 90's. I then made the long and painful switch to the screen and another market.

You know how people learned to be floor traders?
They stood there day after day after day watching, trading small, and hoping they'd figure it out before going broke. Most didn't. No one, and mean no one, helped you out unless you were lucky enough to have an established friend or work for a firm like, say, Singer-Wenger. Most had neither the friend nor the job, but yet, some still made it.

So for OPs like those above, trade very small, practice, learn, and forget the idea that anyone (except someone trying to sell you "trading education") is going to spoon-feed you. Why would any successful trader do that?

Back to your regularly-scheduled programming...

i view all those instances as the situation when people are drowning in the ocean and crying for help...

and the only help usually for them is to just get out of the ocean ( because otherwise most will eventually drown)

after that they either have to learn how to swim step by step in shallow waters on their own, or forget about the ocean all together

 

[HobbyTrading]

So for OPs like those above, trade very small, practice, learn, and forget the idea that anyone (except someone trying to sell you "trading education") is going to spoon-feed you. Why would any successful trader do that?

"Why would any successful trader do that?" Because there is value in the expression "see one, do one, teach one".
Placing yourself in the position of being a teacher helps you on your own road of becoming an even more successful trader.

 

[padutrader]

"Why would any successful trader do that?

there are hundreds of successful professional and people who do just that. sorry my quote looks like i am disagreeing .....
There are no secrets in trading,especially.
We all would be billionaires like Buffet....there is no secret there either but can we do it:he has gone in public in a bear market and asked everyone to buy.....

 

[cafeole]

When I first learned I could trade from home I, too, came here and other places, looking for the holy grail. I say ask away. It is a learning process.

 

[padutrader]

I'm always saying that trading is a career and a business. And in no career and in no business can you become profitable in just three months. Look at doctors, lawyers and engineers. They go to school for years and take examinations and serve internships and practice, and practice some more, before they can truly call themselves professionals. They are all long and challenging processes that take considerably more than three months.

Aziz, Andrew. Advanced Techniques in Day Trading: A Practical Guide to High Probability Day Trading Strategies and Methods (Kindle Locations 152-155). Kindle Edition.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

There are a bunch of pathologies on any message board. This happens to be a trading site so you get various levels of experience.

1) The rank newb who obsesses about one method, goes bust, finds new method.
2) The 3rd World FX trader who’s only looking for a new 400x bucket shop.
3) The ex floor broker that never made a living wage on the floor but thinks he’s Izzy Englander.
4) The jaded 30-year grinder who laboriously posts each trade and trend line. On 4th marriage.
5) The dude masquerading as a woman with an avatar taken off of google images. Will spend 3 hours a day spouting Wikipedia-level garbage. There is no subject that they will not feel confident in offering a nickels worth of advice.
6) Jack Hershey — in a class of his own. Empirical proof that some individuals were simply born to fail.

You forgot number 7. ----people falling all over themselves to award likes to the individual described in number 5. These folks will also defend number 5 at all costs.

 

[qxr1011]

Why would any successful trader do that?

pity maybe moves the one in giving the tip in the same way one gives a dollar to the beggar

but nobody will spoon feed nobody in reality regardless what one will write in this thread

 

[They]

You forgot number 7. ----people falling all over themselves to award likes to the individual described in number 5. These folks will also defend number 5 at all costs.

Lets not forget number 8...

The pathology of the narcissistic male dominatrix who is constantly seeking anyone to engage in a co-dependent relationship of abuse in order to give pleasure to an overdeveloped amygdala, most likely caused by early alcohol use, too much masturbation or a result of being hit in the head too many times from sports or fighting as an intermediate school or high school student causing him to be in some sort of endless loop of teenage behavior continuously being reinforced by other man-boys. “Mongo like candy”

 

[baro-san]

There are a bunch of pathologies on any message board. This happens to be a trading site so you get various levels of experience.

1) The rank newb who obsesses about one method, goes bust, finds new method.
2) The 3rd World FX trader who’s only looking for a new 400x bucket shop.
3) The ex floor broker that never made a living wage on the floor but thinks he’s Izzy Englander.
4) The jaded 30-year grinder who laboriously posts each trade and trend line. On 4th marriage.
5) The dude masquerading as a woman with an avatar taken off of google images. Will spend 3 hours a day spouting Wikipedia-level garbage. There is no subject that they will not feel confident in offering a nickels worth of advice.
6) Jack Hershey — in a class of his own. Empirical proof that some individuals were simply born to fail.

Who do you think you are to judge everybody?

 

[ElectricSavant]

Well Yes...

and

No

Not here often, but a quick scan of the headlines shows people unwilling to do any work. Here are but a few examples:

Here's a guy who wants scan parameters given to him. Never mind the long process of discovering which parameters might be best for you;
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/stock-scans.323073/

Here a guy with "no time to waste" who simply wants someone to hand him a sure-fire recipe for trading:
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/how-do-you-trade-es-nq.323084/

Here's another guy that simply wants to be told what to do, and this is one of many such threads from this poster (a guy I know tried to help him, but his advice was ignored):
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/how-do-i-trade-forex-futures.323081/

And the beat goes on...

Many people have tried to genuinely help with such thoughtless inquiries; they are clearly better people than I. All I want from such posters is for them to trade and provide liquidity (become food) in my markets.

I'll add one small comment for such people. I was a futures floor trader in the 90's. I then made the long and painful switch to the screen and another market.

You know how people learned to be floor traders?
They stood there day after day after day watching, trading small, and hoping they'd figure it out before going broke. Most didn't. No one, and mean no one, helped you out unless you were lucky enough to have an established friend or work for a firm like, say, Singer-Wenger. Most had neither the friend nor the job, but yet, some still made it.

So for OPs like those above, trade very small, practice, learn, and forget the idea that anyone (except someone trying to sell you "trading education") is going to spoon-feed you. Why would any successful trader do that?

Back to your regularly-scheduled programming...