is this a great country or what...

Quote from jackflash:

I know I got flamed pretty good but you know what I just cant understand? With all of today's technologies...now u can really experience trading, enter and exit real-time markets, and get some clue about what your trading abilities are with no money! You can start your trading education for free, or drop back to the basics if you missed it years ago...why does a demo account carry such negative vibrations from all the eti's?? Back in the day, there wasnt such a thing...we paper traded back then and ...paper trading..is like the real joke...not even comparable to a real-time demo account available today. I dont know how many times I wished I could replay the mistake or ignorance that cost me thousands of dollars. Demo? phiffff...yea right. Not me. I remember one time I was just gettin up to speed with the j-trader and when I hit the keys...i bought when I meant to sell...i bought again...then sold the wrong number of contracts...then reversed and went flat...CRAP! in less than a minute I was down 17es points! Improper executions can kill you!

Not to mention all the times before electronic trading when the "system" I was trying out (develp this one sys where I divided the linear m/a by phi and then multipled that by gallons used on my water bill...higer than the market buy...lower sell ha) ne way, the times the market would take me into the MODES...when it moved against me. It usually started with the Crap Mode... 1. "CRAP, im on the wrong side"...then it would go deeper and Id move to 2. "man, I HOPE this comes back"- the HOPE mode...and then usually on to 3. "PLEASE GOD!...let me get my money back"- the PLEASE...GOD mode...which ultimately lead to the 4. the PUKE mode. No doubt you have been there done that huh?


Do you think a demo account is just like a game? Well, I like to win games dont you? But think again; if you are losing money..in a rut..cant pull the trigger...u need the sim. But you have to approach it like it matters...it matters if you make or lose money. Like Ive said before...because you can make money with a demo account, doesnt necessarily mean you will make money trading your cash but you MIGHT be able to make a few bucks. But, heres the dig, if you cant make money with a demo account...you aint got a shot. See, most of the time the market educates enough money from you to become a doctor or a lawyer...and probably more of your time. But unlike doctors or lawyers, most traders dont get paid to learn...or "practice" (like Practicing Attorney..Practicing Physician...whats up with that? I hate payin someone to practice!).

Oh, I know all about "its not real" and "doesnt mean a thing" but why not give "it" a shot before you throw your money away or begin your "investment" in your education...trust me, you will get plenty of opportunities to pay as you play. Noob's and rut traders...Take the demo serious for a week, or as long as it takes to make a thousand mistakes or double your account...treat it just like it was your money and your life. Hone your reflexes..experience the unknowns...put your thoughts to the test and get the bugs worked out...Write down your mistakes and work to eliminate them...at weeks or months end, think of all the lessons you will learn and the sim wont cost u a dime. Its a golden mechanism...especially for the old guys...in a perpetual slump...guy who's been trading for 20 years and still... eat'n like a bird and shit'n like a bull... Of course, if you're makin money you dont need no stinkin demo...u already know all u need to know so good for you. But for the rest of you...you wont be disappointed if you give it a try! You will at least get the all important screen time.

(Oh, and if you dont have ne thing to do...try dividing the kw hours from your elec bill into the total dom orders...and then multiply by phi...divided by the number of years you have been losing money...times a moving average of a fib percentage...just sayin)

Now...bring on the funk eti's...

This was a great post...:cool:
 
Quote from jackflash:



As far as whats holding be back, back from the HUGE days, I suppose its the same thing that holds everyone else back...fear and greed. Dont get me wrong, I do alright, Ive had some BIG days and I havnt lost any money in years, but I havnt had any million dollar days like the demo. But that one day proves it can be done...bcause I did it. Not only that, and more importantly, I posted green blotters consistently ...everyday.


Ha. Oh my god this thread is gold. Hilarious. Just stop trying to save face at this point. You've never made money trading, give it up. This is really sad.
 
Quote from jackflash:

Uhhh...i havnt posted ne blotters...what is ur problem?(yawn) so the trades were made in a demo?...the trades were made...show me one person in here that has ever posted their daily blotters with the likes of mine...demo or otherwise...show me a blotter with a near a million in one day! oh ur an et hero...but let me see for the fun of it there eti...post YOUR trades...demo or real...doesnt matter...contribute a little more to the cause here...or since i try to be nice...you can also just bl*w me...your choice.

(besides...im sure you of all people would know that if i broadcast my trades...jerry_trader shows up...you know that right?)

added..i read like a page of your previous posts...wow...canteen and a box of no doze is in order for continued reading...this must be like your biggest et assignment huh...hehe

I take on that challenge and take it further. I bet you I can make 100 million in a day with a demo with 100,000 starting capital.

I have a bit of traveling to do tomorrow so this will have to do on tuesday morning.
 
Quote from mister_doodi:

I take on that challenge and take it further. I bet you I can make 100 million in a day with a demo with 100,000 starting capital.

I have a bit of traveling to do tomorrow so this will have to do on tuesday morning.

Edit, no f that. I'm gonna do a billion in a day.
 
Quote from bearcats1980:

Ha. Oh my god this thread is gold. Hilarious. Just stop trying to save face at this point. You've never made money trading, give it up. This is really sad.

The thread is a hoot alright..ha endless supply of comedy from eti's. (there aint no savin face with eti's)-(ive made a few bucks)-(awww...dont be sad...i get great meals brought to me daily by social services...):D
 
Quote from mister_doodi:

Edit, no f that. I'm gonna do a billion in a day.

Youre a daisy if ya do...

go for it big boy...but thats a big jump! (be sure and post all your trades so you can show the other eti's how you did it huh) ...but more likely you will fall by the wayside and give me the alternate...

eti fun fact - million seconds=11days billion seconds=32 years
 
Im not sure...but "SHE" should have been...that was foul as a mofo.

Not a total waste of time...but close. Good lesson though...you never know what the real deal is until you get into the deal...

edit:...and "SHE" didnt lose a nickle...
 
Quote from T500K:

Jerry,

On 03/28/2011 we agreed (recorded by ET messages) that you open an trading account with my money in the amount of $10,000 and you trade it. We agreed that I get the 1st $10,000 of profit, then any profit after that we split equally between us. We agreed that I assume all the risk arising from you trading this account.

The check (#1233) of $10,000 was mailed to you on 04/02/2011 and you cashed it on 04/05/2011. After cashing the check, you told me (phone conversation) that you would start trading next Monday on 04/11/2011.

On 07/01/2011, I asked you for a screen shot of the account for my record keeping. You admitted that you didn't open the account and you spent the money on other things (per our phone conversation).

As of 07/01/2011 you could not provide any prove of the existence of the trading account. You have fundamentally breached our agreement.

......



this thread a joke. Thanks for the laughs.
 
Quote from T500K:

On 07/04/2011 Jerry wrote:

"I have the same records, emails and messages of the events you do...and I categorically deny all of your allegations, concoctions and "out-there" misstatements of the truth.

The record is clear...it is you who have elected to breach. Therefore, I am deducting $200.00 per day for my time spent from May 15, 2011 until July 4th, 2011...a total of 51 days.

I consider this matter closed.

Regards"

glad you enjoyed it...assuming that was your only point, thanks for your "robust" two cents..it means alot to your brother eti's..:cool:
 
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