Is there a solution for Economic Inequality?

Quote from DeepFried:

Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge created "economic equality" in Cambodia. Sure, they exterminated millions of people to get it but, hey, who gives a shit, right? It was for the greater good and those rich people and city slickers didn't deserve their material wealth.

The creepy thing about socialists is that they always consider themselves to be one of the elite that should be in charge of determining who is allowed to have what. It doesn't take long for that to ferment into something really horrifying.
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The answer is in the middle. However, Capitalism is the more evil of the two. It is a system that cannot be stopped without a financial crash. So it will fight & transform to survive, while completely shattering the "ideals" that it preaches.
You can observe the "ideal" nation of USA turn into corporate feudalism, while manipulating its socialist components.

A purely socialist system of "equality" is retarded. People have different standards for themselves. So let them exercise that. I have no problem with that. However, what is happening now is that the elite are psychotic and are willing throw the lower class out on the street all for a few extra % points on their already absurd wealth. There is a documented pattern of wealth shift from the middle class into the upper 5%, with a little bit trickling into the ultra poor through government programs. A lot of it is due to the exclusive power of the elite, the other is through inflation & money supply. You know what, how can anyone claim fair opportunity when only the top 5% get the beneficial access to money supply growth while the rest of us only suffer from it through inflation?

I'm not even going to get into the environmental damage, natural resource & food waste of capitalism. It's sickening.
 
No, this is false. Here's the facts

* Only 19 percent receive any income or wealth of any kind from a trust fund or an estate.

* Fewer than 20 percent inherited 10 percent or more of their wealth.

* More than half never received as much as $1 in inheritance.

* Fewer than 25 percent ever received "an act of kindness" of $10,000 or more from their parents, grandparents, or other relatives.

* Ninety-one percent never received, as a gift, as much as $1 of the ownership of a family business.

* Nearly half never received any college tuition from their parents or other relatives.

* Fewer than 10 percent believe they will ever receive an inheritance in the future.

Quote from Hydroblunt:

AHAHAHAHAHA,

You do not know what you're talking about. Not a clue.

Most wealth is inherited & compounded and passed through family relationships & networking. Whole richie rich communities are built around this. Are you at all familiar how and why the Ivy League system was founded?
The privilieged have opportunities practically made especially for them, with many chances to screw up and learn. The non-privilieged have to fight to even get considered and often get completely ignored, even though they may be 10 times smarter. If you ever met or socialized with the young privilieged, you would know. Most of the opportunity is secured and locked away from 90-95% of the population.

Sorry, but in the real world, there is no such thing as fair opportunity for all. It is not possible. There is more talent & hard work out there than there is a chance for wealth. That's real life. So things get shady & nepotism runs rampant. It's been like since the start of civilization. Good ole boy networks are formed because of this. People want to protect their success & edge, noone honestly wants fair competition. It's human nature, people protect their own and will screw the rest, it's only natural.

It's not about economic equality, it's about just a decent living standard for most. Most people do not want to be billionaires consumed with an insatiable desire for money & power. They are better than that. People in general are fine with economic inequality as long as it's reasonable.

Problem is that the ones on top have gone insane with greed. They can't stop. Hence, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and this country is going down the toilet. Corruption is rampant, because there is no point in hard work. That's for the suckers, it's all about being in on it.

Capitalism is a pyramid scheme. The American Dream is just a selling point to sucker people into the rat race. A small fraction can make it but a big fraction cannot. Does not matter how hard everyone may work or how smart they are. Just not possible. All in the numbers.

Bill Gates even stated that a key reason why he accomplished what he did is because he was lucky. He had to be at the right place at the right time and met the right people. Only after that did his hard work, brilliance and criminal business practices have a chance at astronomical success. .
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No, this is false. Here's the facts

* Only 19 percent receive any income or wealth of any kind from a trust fund or an estate.

* Fewer than 20 percent inherited 10 percent or more of their wealth.

* More than half never received as much as $1 in inheritance.

* Fewer than 25 percent ever received "an act of kindness" of $10,000 or more from their parents, grandparents, or other relatives.

* Ninety-one percent never received, as a gift, as much as $1 of the ownership of a family business.

* Nearly half never received any college tuition from their parents or other relatives.

* Fewer than 10 percent believe they will ever receive an inheritance in the future.
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What's the source of those numbers ?
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:

The answer is in the middle. However, Capitalism is the more evil of the two.
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Stalin and Mao killed tens of millions of their own people, Cambodia exterminated 30% of their own population, Vietnam killed about 3 million after the south fell...death camps, secret police, no rule of law....

...And yet you say capitalism is the more evil of the two.
 
Quote from DeepFried:

Stalin and Mao killed tens of millions of their own people, Cambodia exterminated 30% of their own population, Vietnam killed about 3 million after the south fell...death camps, secret police, no rule of law....

...And yet you say capitalism is the more evil of the two.
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...and you forgot the countless number of dictators sponsored by United States like Pinochet, Saddam Hussein,...
 
Quote from joash99:

...and you forgot the countless number of dictators sponsored by United States like Pinochet, Saddam Hussein,...
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What kind of tanks did Saddam have? What kind of jets, rifles? He had T72's, Migs, AK47s - all Soviet weapons. He received his critical chemical weapons technology from German firms. During the Iran-Iraq war in the early '80's, the US provided some intelligence to Saddam, especially regarding Iranian troop movements.

I usually stay out of political arguments here because there are so many intellectually lazy, brainwashed fools like you that it's a complete waste of time. The info on Saddam's weapons and his alliances over the years is easy to find but it's easier for you to just parrot whatever you've been told. It's easier and more socially acceptable for you to remain ignorant.

The number of people killed by shady US allies during the Cold War is a tiny fraction of those killed by your beloved comrades.
 
Chill out Deepfried. You talk like you know something. But you must realized that politic is 90% bs and that every clan has its own version of the story. It's almost impossible to know the real truth about the implication of the US in Iraq in the 80s unless you work at the CIA. You probably simply cherry pick the version that you prefer.

I'd like to come back on your reply to the last post of Hydroblunt. When Hydro talks about the two evils he probably meant socialism and capitalism not totalitarianism and capitalism. All the examples (Stalin, Mao and the likes) have nothing to do with socialism.

And by the way I'm not a communist...I'm in the middle between socialism and capitalism
 
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