Is There A Problem Being A Chartist/PA Trader

Your Opinion On Price Action/TA

  • It Works

    Votes: 12 44.4%
  • Its Voodoo/Fairy Dust

    Votes: 6 22.2%
  • Price Action Works But Indicators Are BS

    Votes: 7 25.9%
  • Trend Following Is The Only Form Of TA That Works

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • Fundamentals Are All That Matters Both Short And Long Term

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Price Action Matters More In Short Term Than Long Term

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    27
I see a lot of people on this site slam price action/TA traders. I mean there are several successful TA traders, Michael Marcus, Marty Schwartz, Nicholas Darvas all relied on TA, even Bruce Kovner selected his stops based on TA.

I made over $100,000 from a small account May 14'- March 15' based the premise that the EUR and GBP were falling heavily against the USD.
I didn't need to know why all of this was happening nor did I care.


All I did was pick my entries where the risk reward was favourable and the chance of me being stopped out was minimal and I banked $$$,$$$.

If something is going to s**t like the EUR and GBP were, I sell and If It looks like its going to the stars I buy. Who cares what the reason is. The moment I started worrying about fundamentals and reports I lost $ consistently.

By TA I mean just price data not TA indicators, TA patterns just as simple as "the price is consistently falling heavily, sell 100 lots whatever"

I don't even know if this method is TA, maybe trend following would best describe it.

But why is there so much hate against TA/Price Action ?

Price action coupled with indicators is a very good system of entry and exit discovery. This will never change.
 
=== Keep losses small. (Never risk more than 2% of Total Liquid Net Worth on any one trade/idea.)===

i do not believe in %

to keep loses small u have to know what u doing, 2%, even 0.02% will not help, it will just drain the deposit a bit slowly

===2. Let winners run using stops outside the noise.===

again nobody explains how

its like buy low sell high,

great

how ?

TA does not answer that question, it was never its purpose.... :)

===3. Keep commissions small===

again not much u can do here


===4. Don't scale in or scale out.===

i would , in fact i believe its a must

===Most gurus and educators don't cover these most important aspects of trading.===

they just have to admit that they do not teach trading, they (if they r honest) can teach anything related to it, but not trading
 
There is but one correct method of trading--


1. Keep losses small. (Never risk more than 2% of Total Liquid Net Worth on any one trade/idea.)

2. Let winners run using stops outside the noise.

3. Keep commissions small

4. Don't scale in or scale out.
 
On another note, what do you guys think of someone who posts, then quotes and answers themselves under different monikers and "likes" themselves under different monikers? Perhaps this should be asked in the psychology section. --Maybe it already has been.
 
NQ market fell into a range about 10 minutes after the open for about 20 minutes. Then it broke.
I'm looking at whether there is a good way to trade such ranges. Doing some backtesting now....
 
=== Keep losses small. (Never risk more than 2% of Total Liquid Net Worth on any one trade/idea.)===

i do not believe in %

to keep loses small u have to know what u doing, 2%, even 0.02% will not help, it will just drain the deposit a bit slowly

===2. Let winners run using stops outside the noise.===

again nobody explains how

its like buy low sell high,

great

how ?

TA does not answer that question, it was never its purpose.... :)

===3. Keep commissions small===

again not much u can do here


===4. Don't scale in or scale out.===

i would , in fact i believe its a must

===Most gurus and educators don't cover these most important aspects of trading.===

they just have to admit that they do not teach trading, they (if they r honest) can teach anything related to it, but not trading

All of which sounds good, but given that his trading results have been so dismal (except for the hindsight trades taken in the middle of the night :)), this advice doesn't amount to much.

On the other hand . . .

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his trading results

too me it does not matter who has which results, especialy i would not discuss other members of the forum

smarts ideas can come form anybody

the problem is that between smart idea and its implementation is usually a huge gap, and to bridge it requires a lot more smart ideas :) (but that already is a problem of the listener)
 
the problem is that between smart idea and its implementation is usually a huge gap, and to bridge it requires a lot more smart ideas :) (but that already is a problem of the listener)

It's also a problem of the claimant.

But if one is presented with a trading plan, the "listener" can verify the results for himself. Otherwise . . .
 
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