Is There A "Do and Don't" List For Option Trading?

May I ask you a question: Many of the options I traded were thinly traded with wide bid/ask. Normally I just aimed for mid point between bid/ask. Was I wrong to aim for mid point?

Correct. Mid point is what your broker wants you to do and it's wrong most of the time. First look at the opposite call/put. The spread should be narrow and that's the real bid/ask relative to extrinsic. Then there is the real value which you will learn over time. Look at the ranges over time and Where it could go and what is your target. I'm Long options cause there are many premium sellers that short blindly Low vols. Think about trading stock and buying opposite call/put and take advantage of put/call parity. Then you will find the real/fair market.
 
Nothing inherently wrong w you trying to catch the mid point but stymie is right- gotta brush up on your synthetics and lock insome trades thru the other option. That beign said, I'd still avoid the wide spreads even though you might occasionally get lucky and get a MM to hit your midpoint. If that spread is on a typical day then something bad happens and you have to get out, that spread will widen more... then you are screwed! You are giving up 15 cents to get in and 25 cents to get out +commission and that will eat up big % of your profits AND that is on the good trades. Imagine the bad trades?
 
selling options means that you are in the insurance business. you are competing with the guys on the Exchange floor. they know how to hedge their trades and their costs are much less than yours. furthermore they are likely to have more capital than you.
the odds are not in your favor.

Selling an ATM put on a stock or ETF is less risky than buying 100 shares of the underlying. So if you think that's too risky, you shouldn't be trading more than 99 shares of stock / ETF.
 
Correct. Mid point is what your broker wants you to do and it's wrong most of the time. First look at the opposite call/put. The spread should be narrow and that's the real bid/ask relative to extrinsic. Then there is the real value which you will learn over time. Look at the ranges over time and Where it could go and what is your target. I'm Long options cause there are many premium sellers that short blindly Low vols. Think about trading stock and buying opposite call/put and take advantage of put/call parity. Then you will find the real/fair market.
Thank you for your reply.
 
Nothing inherently wrong w you trying to catch the mid point but stymie is right- gotta brush up on your synthetics and lock insome trades thru the other option. That beign said, I'd still avoid the wide spreads even though you might occasionally get lucky and get a MM to hit your midpoint. If that spread is on a typical day then something bad happens and you have to get out, that spread will widen more... then you are screwed! You are giving up 15 cents to get in and 25 cents to get out +commission and that will eat up big % of your profits AND that is on the good trades. Imagine the bad trades?
Thank you for your coaching.

What you said is correct and I often paid dearly for bid/ask spreads. I could normally hit the mid point when entering a trade but exiting one was often a different story.
 
Like...
"Don't buy options, only sell
Don't pay>$3 for an option
Don't play option unless its open interest is at least _______
Don't buy with < 30-45-60? days until expiration
Close trades 1st week of expiration month
Trade options ITM-ATM-OTM?"

That sort of thing.

I don't really want to learn all of the lessons "the hard way".


there is no "don't" when it comes to learning

do everything, try different things, try the same thing under different conditions
understand why people said that things, in what conditions/ what context/ what goal?

make mistakes..
lot of it :]
 
Thank you for your coaching.

What you said is correct and I often paid dearly for bid/ask spreads. I could normally hit the mid point when entering a trade but exiting one was often a different story.
Now you see EXACTLY why the plebs can not make money trading options..LOL
But as Stymie said, net sum of overall trades were very profitable (convexity) in spite of having to pay the MM high bid/ask spread during exits. I don't mind paying them their fair share, just do not want to overpay. :finger:
 
Very seldom, I trade options, but when I do, I always adhere to the following two “very simple and yet important” rules:

* Buy options when VI is low and sell them when VI is high

* In either case, you always have to make sure that the wind is at your back by using Williams’s %R momentum indicator.

Good luck

What's so special about %R? There are other "range indicators" with similar indications.
 
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