is the recession orchestrated

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Is it a coincidence that Greenspoo was a student of financial bubbless..
and Bernanke is a student of "the Great Depression"?

I don't think so, Lucy...
 
Quote from morganist:

ok fine you are obviously traders, which makes sense being a trading website. but i am not a trader i am a macro economist so i thought that some of you might be similar to me or graduates with an interest in trading.

by the way how are you going to control the economy through interest rate if debt fails.
I am a fulltime trader and lifetime student of history........you will notice in history that human beings manipulating and causing destruction to other human beings is nothing new (the ways of destruction have just become more deceptive and sophisticated these days).

Nothing in what has happened to the U.S. economy or our financial system was a suprise to me (Accumulated precious metals for 4 years, LONG oil late Feb 07, heavy short ES and long term funds by late Nov 2007, etc). Following global wealth entities destructive moves is almost a sure bet imo.
 
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do you think that the current economic problems are orchestrated. surely it was obvious that lending too much would result in the current situation. if we understand that then why wouldn't people with more knowledge and resources see this.

what do you think.
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No any doubt ...

In 2005 Greenspan orhestrated low rate to support economy ,

But bank's was not interessed to invest in normal business
with normal profit ,they invested in old as world junk ideja -
subprime rate with expectation of simple big profit.

More of them time from time "new visionar" as Milken
provide "scientific evidence" that business with
junk bond have risk equal or lower to normal business


They pumped marked in 6 month of 2005-2006 (sep- april)
DIA some 22%

Share price high growth - more interess by broad public,
more volume ,more clients -more bonus

Motiv is only one and old as world -Greedy

Most of IB have Harward MBA ,some of greedy fund's as LTCM
nobel price winner in economy .

But motiv is decisive -Greedy
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Greenspan ,Paulson ,Grinberg & are jews
Goldman Sachs and Lehman are jews banks

UBS -swiss ,Merril Lynch catholic , Morgans Stanley - wasp with
libanese CEO

Different nation's ,different religion's but have together
only one kind of motiv's -to be greedy
 
Quote from morganist:

you guys seem to have a lot of knowledge on the subject are you graduates or do you work in finance.

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Which kind of ?

Harward MBA ? It is package of plagiat from Aristotel
(Lokk ,Adam Smit and all another related to Aristotel)


But decisive are motive ...
all another are only instrument
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To be greedy .
 
Quote from GermanTrader:

The pattern is obvious and there is no lack of people with money and power, wanting more of both. Of course it is no accident.

No secret this was all setup in 1913.
The only constant thing in this whole mess is greed and no accountability.
A loaf of bread should cost now as it did 5,10,15 years ago.
or just stay cool and go with the flow

:D
 
It is folly to try and reason about this whole crisis and its history using Occam's razor.

Sure, you can find some sequences of wrongdoing, but the meltdown as a whole is not possible to understand using reductionism.

You have to look at the situation, those involved, proposals and outcomes/benefits/loss. There will be a transference of resources - and ultimately there are "winners" to the rescue plan. There is greed in that. No doubt, corruption too.
 
Agree with most of you regarding manipulation...

BUT - something happened out of plan.

Suspect it was Putin's invasion of Georgia.

This caused a policy decision to deflate oil even if it would implode finance entities (or decision wasn't thought through).

And this caused the mess we are in now. I simply can't believe GS allowing itself to become a bank holding company. Can't believe it. Something went wrong.

Perhaps a chance to take things back?
 
Quote from AMT4SWA:

Read any history book and you will see a massive pattern..... POWER and WEALTH is consolidated through EVENTS to acheive "wholesale" pricing levels at the time of acquisition. Power is consolidated through FEAR.......so do you see any FEAR based EVENTS going on these days??? :eek:
This is just too funny.......... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080924/ap_on_el_pr/palin

Pumpin FEAR a little bit late in the game....LOL!!!
 
Quote from drsteph:

Agree with most of you regarding manipulation...

BUT - something happened out of plan.

Suspect it was Putin's invasion of Georgia.

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Read N.Machiavelli "Prince" ,but pop propaganda
from USA media ...


Saakaschwili is basically marionette of USA foregn policy ,

and action of Saakaschwili was designed in USA to win support for republikaner candidat.

Saakaschwili is invader ,it is the fact ,which accepted
in USA and Europha goverment ,but stated that Russia answer
was disproporcional from EU and USA point of view
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Putin is another case of marionette of USA foregn policy ,
he need relation with USA for balanse of he's goverment
against country population

Not forget ,that under old constitution of 1977 of UdSSR
all member of Putin goverment must be sentenced to dead penalty
 
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