Is the larger time frame overrated?

Quote from xelite777:

If you have a profitable trading system, it is in your best interest to apply it to the smallest time frame possible, you will make more, much more money in the long run.

Personally I am constantly looking for mini-trends on the 15 min charts.



True.

But while you are waiting for the "big" move, the short-term trader can make 5 times 50 pip profit in 2 days (250 pips), while you wait 3 weeks to make that same amount.

Big moves in the shortest time frame? That's the holy grail!
 
Quote from xelite777:

Problem is, by the time all the stars are aligned like you said, the trend is already consumed and you are too late to the party, all the smart money is already gone.

Unless you are content with the crumbs...

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Bro, that bird, has got like, a thing in its mouth.

Heady, bra. :cool:
 
I disagree with practically everything that's been posted in this thread, but WTF do I know?

I take the direction from the 60 min or daily and only trade in that direction. I take entries off the 5 or 1 min. The big money is in holding, not short time frames.

Fx is far less volatile than individual stocks. Ditto index futures. That's not even debatable, The difference is the leverage you can use. News flash: leverage works both ways.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I disagree with practically everything that's been posted in this thread, but WTF do I know?

I take the direction from the 60 min or daily and only trade in that direction. I take entries off the 5 or 1 min. The big money is in holding, not short time frames.

Fx is far less volatile than individual stocks. Ditto index futures. That's not even debatable, The difference is the leverage you can use. News flash: leverage works both ways.

It's all good, many ways to skin this cat.
 
Quote from xelite777:

Problem is, by the time all the stars are aligned like you said, the trend is already consumed and you are too late to the party, all the smart money is already gone.

If you're too late to the party during well-defined trends, then you must be waiting for galaxies to align before heading to the party. :D
 
LOL, I was thinking the same thing.

Quote from NoDoji:

If you're too late to the party during well-defined trends, then you must be waiting for galaxies to align before heading to the party. :D
 
Quote from RedTankEra:

Nothing is noise.
Except noise. :p Which is real btw, not imaginary.

But if your point is that no timeframe (e.g., 1 minute) is entirely composed of noise, I'm in total agreement.
 
Quote from Visaria:

Big moves in the shortest time frame? That's the holy grail!

Would you rather make 5 trades and earn 50 pips on each trade in a 2 day period and repeat the whole process again or earn a "BIG" 250 pips in 2 weeks (and it took you another 2 weeks just to get the signal, total = 4 weeks)?

A taxi driver once told me that he makes much much more money with small but frequent 5 to 10 dollars trips than with trips to the airport that earn him $50 per trip.

Waiting for "big" moves does not necessarily mean you will make more money in the long run, far from it.
 
Quote from dbphoenix:

"Big moves" begin on a tick chart.


Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

The big money is in holding.



Nuff said there

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As to;

Is a larger TF overrated ---> Let's call it a comprehensive TF

And no.., it is definitely not overrated

Rather - underutilized - and by far too many imo


RN
 
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