Is the Fed artificially keeping the inflation rate near 2%?

[farmerjohn1324]

He's correct, you're incorrect, and this last response of yours was shamefully irrelevant to the argument.

And none of his posts were relevant to the original post.

Also, if you can't use your profits to invest in something else, then it is not the same. Unless you're going to say he can use margin.

What good is a bar of gold sitting next to you if you can't use it at the grocery store?

And unless those stocks you picked are the best picks every single year for the rest of time, then you are losing out on the opportunity cost of not being able to invest in other things.

 

[Cuddles]

say he bot COKE from decades ago at $10... so he hasn't made any money other than the dividends, until he sell these shares?

what about the real estate guys, some of them keep doing 1031 exchange from a $50000 small house all the way up to a $1m property, so that guy hasn't made any money either.

you gotta let go of this fallacy that some grandpa told you 30 years ago. open profit is the same as closed profit, except it's even better because it is not taxable yet.

and that's investment; not trading

 

[Wheezooo]

And none of his posts were relevant to the original post.

Mom, he hit me first. Really?

Also, if you can't use your profits to invest in something else, then it is not the same. Unless you're going to say he can use margin.

Nope, keep going... see if you get there. Those that get there backs up against the wall and only try to defend their arguments remain blind. Those that challenge their beliefs learn to see.

 

[farmerjohn1324]

Mom, he hit me first. Really?



Nope, keep going... see if you get there. Those that get there backs up against the wall and only try to defend their arguments remain blind. Those that challenge their beliefs learn to see.

Read my paragraph about opportunity cost. It's not a debate.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

The real rich people never sell. They take loans off of their stock investments: https://www.wellsfargoadvisors.com/why-wells-fargo/products-services/lending/securities-based.htm

No taxes paid. Interest rate between 4-7%. Investment keeps growing at 10-20%. Dividends get DRIPped.

 

[farmerjohn1324]

The real rich people never sell. They take loans off of their stock investments: https://www.wellsfargoadvisors.com/why-wells-fargo/products-services/lending/securities-based.htm

No taxes paid. Interest rate between 4-7%. Investment keeps growing at 10-20%. Dividends get DRIPped.

That is called margin. Even retail investors can use margin. It's just like taking out equity if you own real estate, or any other type of secured loan.

But how do they know things will keep growing at 10-20%? It can lead to big trouble if you start defaulting on margin loans.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

That is called margin. Even retail investors can use margin. It's just like taking out equity if you own real estate, or any other type of secured loan.

But how do they know things will keep growing at 10-20%? It can lead to big trouble if you start defaulting on margin loans.

Is it the same?

 

[farmerjohn1324]

Is it the same?

Maybe not exact same rates and terms, but same principal.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

Maybe not exact same rates and terms, but same principal.

Is it? How would you explain the existence of securities based lending that clearly caters to the really rich?

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

https://fortune.com/2014/12/10/securities-based-lending-banks/

Interesting article