Is the European Union doomed?

[toc]

Dude,

I am no Russian but like to take the right side of things. NATO has no right to expand eastwards and create problems like we see in Georgia today. Like said before, commies are gone so should the NATO desires against and anxieties of Russia.

Let's spend more resources on the good causes of the Human race not on weapons for its destruction.

 

[Ivanovich]

Oh, agree wholeheartedly. But when you make a stupid statement that super powers have different rights than "stupid Georgia or Chechnya", I'm going to jump all over it. Countries with power need to show MORE responsibility, not less, in keeping the peace.

And yes, that includes the U.S. and it's shitty policy of convenient unilateralism.

 

[Cesko]

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'All this bullshit about Russians being threatened by this or that is nothing else than pretense for aggression.'

While USSR dissolved nearly 2 decades ago, the NATO still is obsessed with expansion eastwards..........pretense for what?

Leave a buffer zone in between and everything will be peaceful. What Russia did in 20th century under Stalin was a commie mentality. Russia is not commie anymore so does not want to expand and conquer others.

Are you nuts? You talk like Bush:"I looked into his (Putin) eyes and I knew I could trust him". The same American(or whatever western country you are from) naive stupidity. Putin,mind you, is a former KGB agent. He didn't become secret agent just because he wanted to. I bet Putin's whole family were fucking communists. That's the way he was brought up. Ideologically you had to be top-notch. Didn't he say dissolution of USSR was the biggest disaster in last century?

Yeah it's different now. Go to Poland and explain to them (in you infinite western wisdom) they have nothing to fear about anymore.

 

[new$]

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Buy Low and Sell Lower!

why do not you understand that engaging Russia does not mean USAF led Desert Storm..............it means hot boiling 100 MegaTon H-Bombs all over the world. 10 such monsters and earth is doomed for next millions of years. Come to sense man!!!!!!!

About ten yrs ago Colin Powel said Russia has the power to snuf all life in the US in less than 30 mins. I get the feeling sometimes we have children playing with nuclear toys.

 

[Ivanovich]

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About ten yrs ago Colin Powel said Russia has the power to snuf all life in the US in less than 30 mins. I get the feeling sometimes we have children playing with nuclear toys.

That's a little silly considering the U.S. has the exact same power towards Russia. M.A.D., right?

However, I would agree that Russians do behave like children on the world stage. I'm just shocked at how little the rest of the world understands Russia. If they were better informed (which surprises me considering the resources at many countries' disposal) they would know better how to manipulate Russia. Russians are the Klingons of the world, to use a Star Trek reference. Except Klingons had honor.

 

[new$]

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That's a little silly considering the U.S. has the exact same power towards Russia. M.A.D., right?

its not silly if one is going down to take as many with you as possible. Once someone starts the rest is easy to miscalculate.

 

[Ivanovich]

So wait a minute, are you suggesting Russia would launch a world-wide nuclear strike because they were worried about being "taken down"?

Ugh...this conversation is no longer useful. I'm out.