Is the European Union doomed?

Napolean lost to Russia. Hitler lost to Russia.
We will lose to Russia, if we're stupid enough to try it.

Doesn't anyone ever read a history book?
 
While fighting wars and bickering over small items is human nature but as of today, the human race cannot afford another COLD WAR with Russians. Holds true for both sides.

Trillions thrown away on killing machines should be used for infrastructure and development purposes.

The obsession of US with bring Russians down is total madness and more so after they have dropped communist lifestyles. US policy in this issue well into evilness category and they should change before the world gets into another destructive scenario of cold and hot wars.
 
Idiots do not understand that if NATO fights with Russia then inital fighting will be done on the former Warsaw pact nations who are currently very happy to be a part of NATO.

Ukraine for one will pay through the nose via much higher gas prices in return for peanuts from NATO.

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Idiots do not understand that if NATO fights with Russia then inital fighting will be done on the former Warsaw pact nations who are currently very happy to be a part of NATO.

Ukraine for one will pay through the nose via much higher gas prices in return for peanuts from NATO.

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I don't understand your point.
Anyway, theoretically(!), if Russians attack Poland who the fuck is going to fight?? NATO'German girls or NATO's French girls?? These idiots wouldn't lift a finger. Dumb-ass Germans don't even have enough balls to criticize Russians. The only ones fighting would be Poles. And fight hard they would. How about Czech Republic? They would just bend over take it in the ass.
By the way, regarding Europeans, wherever are the peace protests like those during Iraq's war?? Where is the fucking outrage?? Europeans fancy themselves to be sooo fucking sophisticated yet they are just pretentious assholes and I am saying that as a European. Europeans truly disgust me.
Reg. pipelines to Europe from Russia. In mid-eighties, Reagan lobbied hard against it. Europeans were too dumb to listen.
 
'These idiots wouldn't lift a finger.'

That is what is my point, even if NATO fights, the war and destruction will take place on Poland and Czech republics not on German or French soil........atleast initially.

Although NATO vrs Russia, we are talking nuclear scenario......right from the begining, so not even Australians are safe from the fall out.
 
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Napolean lost to Russia. Hitler lost to Russia.
We will lose to Russia, if we're stupid enough to try it.

Doesn't anyone ever read a history book?
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1. If you were going to invade russia then you'd want to take the distances and weather into account. You might also want to limit the number of enemies you took on at once.

2. Who (including the Russians and the British) ever won in Afghanistan?
 
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1. If you were going to invade russia then you'd want to take the distances and weather into account. You might also want to limit the number of enemies you took on at once.

2. Who (including the Russians and the British) ever won in Afghanistan?
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After the wars, there has always been just one aggressor imperialist(!) and it's God-damned Russia. There is one thing all Russian neighbors want. FOR RUSSIANS TO LEAVE THEM FUCKING ALONE.

All this bullshit about Russians being threatened by this or that is nothing else than pretense for aggression.
Who the hell wants to fight Russia in his right mind??? Russians are scum,nothing more than scum.
 
'All this bullshit about Russians being threatened by this or that is nothing else than pretense for aggression.'

While USSR dissolved nearly 2 decades ago, the NATO still is obsessed with expansion eastwards..........pretense for what?

Leave a buffer zone in between and everything will be peaceful. What Russia did in 20th century under Stalin was a commie mentality. Russia is not commie anymore so does not want to expand and conquer others.

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By the way, Russian army is in tatters even as of today. So in the event matters get hot with NATO or anyone of substantial power, Russia will be forced to use nukes very early and then we are talking some bad crap flying around all over.
 
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