Is network TV even relevant anymore?

jbtrader23 · Oct 30, 2003

Has Network TV ever been this bad? "Creativity" at the major networks is no where to be found. It seems like all NBC can do is to put hot young women in glass containers filled with water, snakes and chocolate covered cockroaches. What entertainment!

I'm suprised at how long the networks have been able to get away with charging advertisers more and more money while they deliver fewer and fewer total viewers. You think the scam would have ended long ago. Why haven't the advertisers wised up?

Are network TV execs so arrogant as to believe that their "monopoly" on entertainment is eternal? These guys are living in a dream world.

The last episode of Seinfeld was the last "real" TV moment we'll see. That was the nail in the coffin.

marketsurfer · Oct 30, 2003

the networks were never relevant. the culture is just catching on....

surfer

Nolan-Vinny-Sam · Oct 30, 2003

Quote from jbtrader23:

Has Network TV ever been this bad? "Creativity" at the major networks is no where to be found. It seems like all NBC can do is to put hot young women in glass containers filled with water, snakes and chocolate covered cockroaches. What entertainment!

I'm suprised at how long the networks have been able to get away with charging advertisers more and more money while they deliver fewer and fewer total viewers. You think the scam would have ended long ago. Why haven't the advertisers wised up?

Are network TV execs so arrogant as to believe that their "monopoly" on entertainment is eternal? These guys are living in a dream world.

The last episode of Seinfeld was the last "real" TV moment we'll see. That was the nail in the coffin.

nuhhhhhhhh, business as usual

cater to the majority target audience's needs--------you deal with monkeys you feed them bananas

or is it you deal with mushrooms, you feed them bullshit and keep them in the dark???

ARogueTrader · Oct 30, 2003

Quote from marketsurfer:

the networks were never relevant. the culture is just catching on....

surfer

Network television helped to shape a culture and a generation.

Without free network news, the 60's would never have played out the way they did.

You have no understanding of history and the media, do you?

marketsurfer · Oct 31, 2003

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Network television helped to shape a culture and a generation.

Without free network news, the 60's would never have played out the way they did.

You have no understanding of history and the media, do you?

the culture shapes TV, not the other way around. you are the one who does not understand.

ARogueTrader · Oct 31, 2003

Quote from marketsurfer:

the culture shapes TV, not the other way around. you are the one who does not understand.

Wrong, as usual.

"The medium is the message."

"If the work of the city is the remaking or translating of man into a more suitable form than his nomadic ancestors achieved, then might not our current translation of our entire lives into the spiritual form of information seem to make of the entire globe, and of the human family, a single consciousness?"

---Marshal McClullen---

Madonna, Michael Jordan, The Beatles, Andy Warhol, MTV, etc. shaped our culture, not the other way around. Fashion doesn't respond to the masses, the masses develop their sense of fashion by what is presented to them on television.

Art inspires people, people do not inspire art. We are a nation of followers of media, not leaders of the media.

It was the television age that inflenced our culture, as revolutionary ideas were spread to the masses via television, and the children who grew up watching television were shaped by these messages.

Madison · Oct 31, 2003

Quote from Nolan-Vinny-Sam:

nuhhhhhhhh, business as usual
cater to the majority target audience's needs--------you deal with monkeys you feed them bananas or is it you deal with mushrooms, you feed them bullshit and keep them in the dark???

LOL! never heard the mushroom one...

tv has just expanded and divided, with some channels taking a higher road, and the networks pandering to the lowest common denominator.

ARogueTrader · Oct 31, 2003

Quote from Madison:

LOL! never heard the mushroom one...

tv has just expanded and divided, with some channels taking a higher road, and the networks pandering to the lowest common denominator.

Isn't is a matter of the old networks knowing that their audience is only those who can't afford cable, sattelite, TIVO, HBO, etc.?

They seem to be producing shows for their current audience, which would be a lower socioeconomic group.

maxpi · Oct 31, 2003

Quote from marketsurfer:

the culture shapes TV, not the other way around. you are the one who does not understand.

Nope, TV amplifies whatever part of the culture they choose.