Is Microsoft giving up on Vista?

i'd seriously prefer to improve performance and give the edge to more powerful and cheaper hardware rather than all those fancy bells and whistles that simply is demand meeting supply..

btw microsoft marketing is terrible.. XP? vista? 7?
 
Quote from swtrader:

i dont mean missile guidence precision, i just mean sucking less than it does, because it's chock full of useless BLOAT

A big part of the problem is the way the licenses are sold as co-branded proprietary O/S - packed full of corrupt and sloppy trial versions of endless programs and PC maker revisions, interfaces, tools and branding. To get it all off, you have to clean the PC + registry right away and this is really makes the O/S buggy, not the design (at least after a couple of Service Pack releases).

If you get a fresh copy of XP right out of the box, not from Dell or someone else that corrupts it, it runs MUCH much better.

Here is how you can tell what you have: If you buy a PC and all you get is a "restore disk" then your copy of Windows is a proprietary re-vamp. And if you ever need to re-install it, it will re-load back on the 30 or so crappy trial programs and all of the PC maker corruptions that come with.

But if your PC maker sent you a copy of XP in it's original box/disc, then you are OK.

In fact, when I order PC's, I insist on a fresh copy of XP in the box and NOT the proprietary restore-disk crap (Dell is one of the worst, by the way, but they will give you clean XP if you specify and order from their business division and not consumer)

PS this info was shared with me by my brother who works for MSFT.
 
Business is business, Microsoft is just moving on. What do you expect them to say ?

Took them long enough to laugh about their very own Microsoft Bob :)
 
the secret is out...
and it is ugly!

Windows7 is actually Vista 1.1



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Quote from Tums:

the secret is out...
and it is ugly!

Windows7 is actually Vista 1.1



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Did she just say Windows 7 will be Windows 6.1?

Can anyone who works in marketing please explain to me (an engineer) how exactly your brains work? I really would like to know.
 
Quote from kiwi_trader:

The same questions were asked with xp. Ram and cpu gets cheaper so people build software with bells and whistles that need/take advantage of that ... its the trend guys ... do you all trade counter trend?

The community interested in os releases (that has slated vista sp1 and not been too keen on sp2 ... but does like server 2008) sees potential in W7. It is looking pretty reasonable. It is built on other os's like nt>xp>vista>w7 ... but what does one expect. It does boot faster than vista or xp ... but instant recovery (other than from sleep) doesn't appear to be the goal.

SP2 of WS2008 is looking like it should be a better os for people who care about solid reliable behaviour. If traders are really really serious about reliability they should be using WS2008 or Server 2003 - they are faster and more reliable than the Workstation equivalents.

MS is building a new kernel but I don't recall seeing that it would make it to W7.

However, I think most people will move to W7 because it will be a clean step up from vista .. just like xp was from (remember it) millenium.

Yeah you can't have instant on either until hard drives are replaced by flash memory.

I will get w7 because by then I will probably need to replace some machines.

John
 
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