Is Kissing Obama and His Team of Globalist Czars Immoral?
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FeenixRizin... I am curious, where would you go? Socialism is much more popular in the rest of the world than the United States. Which country is more right of center than the US?
You remind me of the liberals about 5 years ago. George W Bush had just won a second term and the Republicans increased their control of congress. Liberals were whinning about how America was lost and many were vowing to leave the country and go to England or Canada. Of course 5 years later complete reversal in the political fortunes of the two parties.
You remind me of the liberals about 5 years ago. George W Bush had just won a second term and the Republicans increased their control of congress. Liberals were whinning about how America was lost and many were vowing to leave the country and go to England or Canada. Of course 5 years later complete reversal in the political fortunes of the two parties.
One of the two places left... Australia or New Zealand. You can have your diversity.
This country may be too far gone. I predicted 15 years ago, the Democrats would import 30-50 million mexicans, (half-kiddingly) abolish the electoral college, and that would be the end ...
pretty damn close. And yes, Im fully aware im engaging in cookey talk.
When it snows in October, and I'm living under the specter of a Carbon Tax to combat Global Warming, why not just go with it. Worse, it's to combat climate change.
The key to this battle is to fight peacefully with ideas. As Boetie wrote in "The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude" - - a tyrant can't physically impose his will on the people- - they have to go along with it. One man or small group of men can only accomplish dictatorship if they fool the majority. - - This was readily apparent when the old USSR broke down. The people including those in the Army refused to go along with the dictatorship any longer. Unfortunately, in that case it took 70 years of oppression & poverty for enough people to get it - and since then they have put the shackles on once again. People seem to be willing to enslave themselves for promises of security by some substitute 'Mommy', or for some sense of personal purpose & belonging given by a substitute 'Daddy'. Politicians & dictators are only too willing to fill those roles.
The danger IMO, is that people will get diverted by the same ole' Dem vs Rep illusion when the next election rolls around, and not even notice that 'their guy' is essentially doing the same thing that 'the other guy' did when the last scoundrel was seemingly 'thrown out'. Thus, we get the same policies regarding the wars and laws violating personal liberty under the current admin that we had with the last one, but the same people defending what they had opposed before. The loyal and blindly faithful are satisfied by all the pretty words they hear and don't look hard at actions. They don't look hard because they have received what they wanted - that sense of false 'security' and 'purpose' and 'belonging'. (Besides, thinking for yourself is often scary, hard work - and most people don't want anything to do with it. Turn on the t.v. and pass the beer !) The effectiveness of the Dem 'versus' Rep illusion game is readily apparent when reading this forum. Regards, - - - -
The danger IMO, is that people will get diverted by the same ole' Dem vs Rep illusion when the next election rolls around, and not even notice that 'their guy' is essentially doing the same thing that 'the other guy' did when the last scoundrel was seemingly 'thrown out'. Thus, we get the same policies regarding the wars and laws violating personal liberty under the current admin that we had with the last one, but the same people defending what they had opposed before. The loyal and blindly faithful are satisfied by all the pretty words they hear and don't look hard at actions. They don't look hard because they have received what they wanted - that sense of false 'security' and 'purpose' and 'belonging'. (Besides, thinking for yourself is often scary, hard work - and most people don't want anything to do with it. Turn on the t.v. and pass the beer !) The effectiveness of the Dem 'versus' Rep illusion game is readily apparent when reading this forum. Regards, - - - -
Best post on the entire thread.
The key to the battle is for the republicans to STFU about Obama (it isn't helping their approval ratings) and find a candidate to lead their party who doesn't not have high negative approval ratings...
If republicans put their energy into rallying behind an electable candidate who could capture the independent voters imagination, their problems with Obama will be behind them.
If republicans put their energy into rallying behind an electable candidate who could capture the independent voters imagination, their problems with Obama will be behind them.
One other point:
Obama is closer to Bush III than anything else...
So, the people who defended Bush for two election cycles, now attack Obama?
You expect the losers who defended Bush for 8 years to suddenly have credibility?
It would be one thing if Obama was following Reagan and the Reganites were complaining that their "man" was the way, the truth, and the light.
This is not the case at all.
Limfat, Coulter, Hammity, Bick, and all the other leaders of the republican party all supported Bush staunchly...wrongly then in their thinking, but now they are right?
It is like someone hedge fund manager who got a bunch of money, blew out the account by only going long since 2000, and now expects people to continue to fund his account because he went short at the bottom.
It defies common sense to look to the people who were dead wrong about the election, wrong about Iraq, wrong about the economy, etc. and now expect them to be leaders into the next generation...
The only value I can see (and it is not a value I embrace) is that the bitter partisanship makes Rush Fatman and his ilk a lot of money, sells lots of advertising for right wing radio, etc.
It has zero to do with patriotism or concern for what is actually best for America...
Obama is closer to Bush III than anything else...
So, the people who defended Bush for two election cycles, now attack Obama?
You expect the losers who defended Bush for 8 years to suddenly have credibility?
It would be one thing if Obama was following Reagan and the Reganites were complaining that their "man" was the way, the truth, and the light.
This is not the case at all.
Limfat, Coulter, Hammity, Bick, and all the other leaders of the republican party all supported Bush staunchly...wrongly then in their thinking, but now they are right?
It is like someone hedge fund manager who got a bunch of money, blew out the account by only going long since 2000, and now expects people to continue to fund his account because he went short at the bottom.
It defies common sense to look to the people who were dead wrong about the election, wrong about Iraq, wrong about the economy, etc. and now expect them to be leaders into the next generation...
The only value I can see (and it is not a value I embrace) is that the bitter partisanship makes Rush Fatman and his ilk a lot of money, sells lots of advertising for right wing radio, etc.
It has zero to do with patriotism or concern for what is actually best for America...
They really are disorganized, because they should be having a field day with whats going down. I will get a lot of flak for saying this, but they should kick the Bush family out entirely and send them to live with the bin-Laden family, since they have such close ties. Go from there and possibly they can restore it.