Is It Time For Patriots To Begin Stockpiling Weapons?

Quote from acronym:

Reconsider? Reconsider what, a couple, at best of those nice words are currently in effect.


What the Supreme Court deems en vogue today is 'antiquated' and 'untenable' tomorrow.

The Law of the Land IS the Constitution. And its final interpretation rests on the words of the signatories and their attitude evidenced at the time it was signed. Thats what Jefferson said:

"On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." (Thomas Jefferson)



The Founders were abundantly clear every Free, peaceful person is entitled to Bear Arms:

"The Constitution shall never be construed....to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms" (Samuel Adams)

"The great object is that every man be armed" and "everyone who is able may have a gun." (Patrick Henry)

"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (Thomas Jefferson)




So Who is the Militia? The Militia is the People:

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and include all men capable of bearing arms." (Richard Henry Lee)

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for few public officials." (George Mason)



Now, if you want to debate facts - not opines - feel free to post Case Law distilled from sleazebag Justices who decisions contravene the Spirit of the Founders.

Then I will declare the rulings Unconstitutional, cite corresponding quotes by the Founders that prove it such and make thinly veiled inferences of the Justices patriotic leanings.

As soon as Americans concede Constitutional Law to be a discretionary art subject to liberal interpretation by the Courts, the Country is dead.

This type of Judicial "Activism" (as our Criminal-In-Cheif calls it) has occurred for more than a century - slowly warping and defiling nation into the rotten cesspool its become.
 
Quote from hapaboy:

I keep hearing that, for home defense, a shotgun is the way to go.

Agree, disagree?
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Hapaboy;
Exactly;
12 guage or any of them talks better than a chain saw, and even birdshot is deadly at house killing distances:cool:

12 guage makes/grinds meat hamburger at close range

And while the bumper sticker is funny''WARNING, this driver carries only $20 worth of ammo''

Get more ammo than that.:p

And fortunately even democrats arent trying to enact more stupid/non working gun laws;
they dont have enough votes anyway,probably.
 
Quote from Almighty1:

From my point of view it is a citizen's right to bear arms, period.


After that I personally believe that a person should have the right to carry arms as they do in Texas.

Frankly if citizens were armed, this fiasco in Virginia might have been stopped. Give a chance, I would have put a bullet right through the little bastard's head. Game over.

A1
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Almight;
thats right.:cool:
 
Quote from achilles28:



Care to read what the Founders said in their own words?


"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334,[C.J.Boyd, Ed., 1950])

"The right of the people to keep and bear...arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country..." (James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 [June 8, 1789])


"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [ I Annals of Congress at 750 {August 17, 1789}])


"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244)


"The Constitution shall never be construed....to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms" (Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87)


"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them." (Richard Henry Lee, 1788, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights, Walter Bennett, ed., Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republican, at 21,22,124 (Univ. of Alabama Press,1975)
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Exactly;
''No free man shall ever be disbarred the use of arms''.President, founding father Thomas Jefferson.And Madison, Adams were US presidents also

Thats crystal clear;
and US Supreme court has agreed with that thank God.

:cool:
 
Quote from Dirty Trader:

pamjoey, Just think of the lives that would have been saved if those poor victims at VT had been permitted to carry weapons onto campus to defend themselves. The perp would have killed the first two or so kids, but then about six handguns would have been emptied into the sonofabitch from the other students.

Maybe 30 or so lives would have been saved if innocent people had been allowed to defend themselves.

That may be true. But you also have to figure in the loss of life at frat parties when someone gets shot and also there would probably be more jealous gun violence if 18 to 22 year old boys/men had a concealed pistol. You can't only look at one side of the gun argument, if you do then resulting decision will be flawed. This applies to both sides.
 
Quote from atticus:

Shotguns are great for single point of fire, but the cyclic rate is obviously lacking.

There is no substitute for the H&K MP5.

Its a fine little peice of machinery.

But cyclic rate? For home defense? That clip would give average joe, what amounts to two shots in real terms.
And would it be legal to own one, where your at? That isn't semi auto-your probably being sarcatic though, you do steroids and stuff
:D :D
 
Quote from acronym:

Its a fine little peice of machinery.

But cyclic rate? For home defense? That clip would give average joe, what amounts to two shots in real terms.
And would it be legal to own one, where your at? That isn't semi auto-your probably being sarcatic though, you do steroids and stuff
:D :D

lol. I have a full-auto MP5. Legal in NV.

My point re: cyclic rate has more to do with dispersion. Shotguns are great against single assailants. We had a double-homicide in a 4mm home in the adjacent gated community. I'd rather have one and not need it, then need it and not have one.
 
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