Is it the "price of gas, stupid"?

Quote from 377OHMS:

Some correlation between crude and gasoline can be observed but there is enormous lag and hysteresis due to all of the local influences.

Just some? Alright, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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I need to head out for the day, thanks for your "open" minded conversation.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

Just some? Alright, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

eia_gasoline_lag_crude.png


I need to head out for the day, thanks for your "open" minded conversation.

Your own chart shows gigantic divergences between crude and gasoline. Did you read your own chart?

Good Lord, that chart is mean reversion tradeable!
 
The Saudi's are running out of oil, their supply has peaked. They can see that they might as well cut back on it while we are working towards going after the really expensive stuff, they might as well cash in on the situation... also, they might have thought that Democrats would mean less wars but Obama stood by wringing his hands while the Military totally screwed with Ghadafi utterly illegally..

Where are all those anti-war assholes when Democrats are in power? I recall how they used to post a hundred insults a day here on ET when Bush was in the WH...
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

So you don't believe there is speculation in the price of oil anywhere then? Or that it is small?

There is always speculation in the oil price, as there is in any commodity. So what? There was speculation 20 years ago, too. That doesn't explain why oil is higher now than it was then.

Speculators always get blamed when the price of a commodity goes up, they never get credited when the price of a commodity goes down, even though you'll find as many speculators on the short side as on the long side. It seems that a major social function of speculators is to serve as whipping boys for the political class when oil or food gets expensive for reasons that are either nobody's fault or are due to bad policies by the politicians.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

Your own chart shows gigantic divergences between crude and gasoline. Did you read your own chart?

Good Lord, that chart is mean reversion tradeable!

no, I didn't read my own chart. I just posted it blindly.

The chart is not meant as an intraday arb opportunity, but a long term trend. I can't believe I have to explain something so obvious.
 
Quote from rew:

There is always speculation in the oil price, as there is in any commodity. So what? There was speculation 20 years ago, too. That doesn't explain why oil is higher now than it was then.

Speculators always get blamed when the price of a commodity goes up, they never get credited when the price of a commodity goes down, even though you'll find as many speculators on the short side as on the long side. It seems that a major social function of speculators is to serve as whipping boys for the political class when oil or food gets expensive for reasons that are either nobody's fault or are due to bad policies by the politicians.

So you think there is the same speculation in the price of oil today as there was 20 years ago, then?
 
"There are no magic solutions to rising oil prices," said White House press secretary Jay Carney.

Definition of CARNEY

1: a person who works with a carnival

Rhymes with Blarney
 
Quote from nutmeg:

"There are no magic solutions to rising oil prices," said White House press secretary Jay Carney.

Definition of CARNEY

1: a person who works with a carnival

Rhymes with Blarney

Solution to the carnival's oil dilemma - sound monetary policy and a strong dollar.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

no, I didn't read my own chart. I just posted it blindly.

The chart is not meant as an intraday arb opportunity, but a long term trend. I can't believe I have to explain something so obvious.

No explanation required. I can read a chart and yours contra-indicates your own assertion.

You seem intent on being a jackass about it. I'm disappointed. I hadn't realized what a child you are until now. It sorta explains the Ron Paul thing I guess.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

So you think there is the same speculation in the price of oil today as there was 20 years ago, then?

Yes. Speculators were just as "greedy" 20 years ago.
 
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