Is it possible to participate in the ARCA opening cross with IB ?

[d08]

Are you sure that there's a separate auction on ARCA for what you're trading? What if you try to route to say ISLAND, same problem?

It's actually best to ask IB at this point, you can get a quick answer from them as it's a direct question.

 

[gueria]

Are you sure that there's a separate auction on ARCA for what you're trading? What if you try to route to say ISLAND, same problem?

It's actually best to ask IB at this point, you can get a quick answer from them as it's a direct question.

Yes, there's a seperate auction, you can check here for official ARCA open and close price wich sometimes differ from the NYSE.

http://datasvr.tradearca.com/arcadataserver/Auction.php

For ISLAND no problems.

IB answer was very vague, as I said they advised to place order outside of RTH with good after time 9:30:00...For me it's a No, it's not possible, so i'll stick with NYSE auction for now...Just wondering how people could get those ARCA prints...

 

[d138]

No, it's not possible, cause ARCA does not have an action for BAC.

 

[d08]

I was also looking at T&S and saw no ARCA auctions on opening or closing, I used GE as an example.

 

[gueria]

This is what I have for BAC (ActiveTick data) :

T,20160108093000070,15.940000,100,P,0,0,0,16
T,20160108093000070,15.940000,100,P,0,0,17,0
...
T,20160108093023880,15.820000,1648849,N,0,0,17,0

and GE :

T,20160108093000072,29.200000,200,P,0,0,0,16
T,20160108093000072,29.200000,200,P,0,0,17,0
...
T,20160108093051615,29.120000,909083,N,0,0,17,0

exchange codes :

P : ExchangeNyseArcaExchange
N : ExchangeNyseEuronext

Trade condition 16 is "TradeConditionMarketCenterOfficialOpen"
Trade condition 17 is "TradeConditionMarketCenterOpening"

Maybe those data are not accurate and do not represent an actual opening auction, then my mistake.

 

[d138]

You are confusing "Market Center Official Open" and Market Center Open Cross.

 

[sprstpd]

I had always assumed this. Will have to test it out on Monday.

When I bring up a BAC ARCA line on TWS, OPG orders aren't even an option.

When I bring up a BAC SMART line on TWS, I can create an OPG order and then direct it to ARCA but when I submit, it says "The time-in-force is invalid for this combination of exchange and security type."

So either there is no opening cross for BAC on ARCA or IB does not allow OPG orders on non-primary exchanges.

 

[d08]

I just tried to enter an OPG order for GE from TWS and I don't even get the option when routing to ARCA, it's only DAY GTC GTD DTC.

 

[d08]

So either there is no opening cross for BAC on ARCA or IB does not allow OPG orders on non-primary exchanges.

They do allow OPG on non-primary exchanges, you can easily send NYSE stuff to NASDAQ auction.
Why would ARCA even have a separate auction as ARCA and NYSE are both owned by ICE.

 

[sprstpd]

They do allow OPG on non-primary exchanges, you can easily send NYSE stuff to NASDAQ auction.
Why would ARCA even have a separate auction as ARCA and NYSE are both owned by ICE.

Good point, I should have tried ISLD instead. Will do that tomorrow.