it had expired when it went to below zero
does that have something to do with it
does that have something to do with it
So let's say I am a politician and I buy a shitload of penny stocks in a worthless small pharma company, based on insider info. Then the government brings out a law that insider trading is punishable by death/very strict and long sentence. In that case, I wouldn't mind to lose extra money (more than what I invested) just to get the hell out of that position, before the stock may take off.
Other scenarios could involve tax issues, when a large holder just doesn't want to be in the position but there are very few buyers, thus he pays extra to unload the stocks.
Here is another one:
I am elected to be a board member of a company. I own millions of a penny stock, but it is a conflict of interest for me to have those. Nobody wants that stock even for pennies, so I have to pay extra for someone to take them off of my hand. So in reality the stock's price is going to be negative when I get ride of them.
If I want to get ride of stocks I offer them for free to a family member (children) and problem is solved. Why should I pay money for that?
Stocks will never go negative unless an idiot wants to get ride of them.
If we are taking in consideration index is aggregate value of its components, then it is no way it comes to zero. It will be replaced one component. Recently M was removed from SP500 f.e. However if you remember anti volatility index was removed it came to zero, not negative.The recent negative price of oil futures is unprecented. Caused a lot of losses to traders and I heard even the brokerage software failed to work as expected.
Is there any risk that price of index futures can go negative like oil? I can't imagine how it can happen. Can the experts here share your views? Any worst-case scenario you can think of that can cause this to happen?
For stock, it comes to zero. And will be closed look for JC Penny f.e.Time. You want them gone by yesterday. Your family member doesn't have a broker account. Also they might don't want them even for free. If it is an insider trading allegation, your family member owning it is still a big no-no.
Yes, I have just described 3 scenarios when a person would want to pay extra to get ride of the position.
For stock, it comes to zero. And will be closed
OK, got it. However for all these stock market ages we did not have such occurrence exists right. Also can we make negative price on order. But theoretically your scenario may exists.None of my scenarios described the company going bankrupt. I will spell it out for you:
When in an illiquid and very low priced stock (we are talking about pennies) you own too many shares and you have to get ride of them very quickly, it makes sense to offer extra (aka negative) value so somebody is willing to take it off of your hands for a FEE. Thus the negative value.
I may don't want your penny stock for even half a penny, but if you pay me 2 pennies per stock, we are in business! Got it?
OK, got it. However for all these stock market ages we did not have such occurrence exists right. Also can we make negative price on order. But theoretically your scenario may exists.
But if 1930 scenario would show up, - then why those futures, couldn't it go to zero/negative, while SnP would experience ~70% crash ?