Is it possible earn 20% a year swing trading stocks.

[Deep Algorithms]

it's possible and depends on trading strategy,etc.. .after a specific amount of capital , the trading time frame and liquidity will be an issue .
a Eurex (successful ) trader claims in his interview that he had problem with liquidity in intraday trading because he trades big contracts .even the best traders have some years (even in row) drawdowns. the consistency is not only consistency in profits , whether it may be tolerating loss periods and continue game .what you mentioned is exactly what Warren Buffet did. he trades from age of 15 and used compound interest .after 70 years he is the richest.

No, it is not possible. Name one trader who has consistently doubled his/her money every year? Your mention of Warren Buffett is incorrect. His average annual return since the 70s is closer to 20% in excess of the T-bill rate, at least measured by shares of Berkshire Hathaway. Although, he once claimed he could guarantee a 50% return (I can't remember where I heard this though).

Maybe one way to end this debate would just be for someone claiming this to be possible to post audited trading results and prove it?

 

[Commodity_Trader]

No, it is not possible. Name one trader who has consistently doubled his/her money every year? Your mention of Warren Buffett is incorrect. His average annual return since the 70s is closer to 20% in excess of the T-bill rate, at least measured by shares of Berkshire Hathaway. Although, he once claimed he could guarantee a 50% return (I can't remember where I heard this though).

Maybe one way to end this debate would just be for someone claiming this to be possible to post audited trading results and prove it?

first i said consistency is remaining in the game with some drawdowns & i said even best traders have some loss years in a row ! regarding audited trading result , i'm ready to send it if it will remain private between me and you.i have one year of FX trading proven track record which i made near 100 % with a few hundred trades on main pairs.i could not continue trading in real account because my country was under rigid sanctions and my banking account was blocked too.i put these 5 years into self research about trading strategies to find a high reward/ risk and minimum draw downs .now i'm making money and my recent trades screenshots are available in this forum.i just had chance to trade that year in FX and i made it .i dont know about what happens in future , but as i know market are fractal and they repeat themselves.i'm also ready to share my CME trading track record after a while ( at the moment it's just a few months ).

 

[Grandluxe]

it's possible and depends on trading strategy,etc.. .after a specific amount of capital , the trading time frame and liquidity will be an issue .
a Eurex (successful ) trader claims in his interview that he had problem with liquidity in intraday trading because he trades big contracts .even the best traders have some years (even in row) drawdowns. the consistency is not only consistency in profits , whether it may be tolerating loss periods and continue game .what you mentioned is exactly what Warren Buffet did. he trades from age of 15 and used compound interest .after 70 years he is the richest.

Are you saying you can make 10 billion dollars in 10-20 years from trading?

You could finance your own revolution in Iran.

 

[llIHeroic]

Commodity, you're embarking on a pointless endeavor trying to prove what you know to be true about the market to a skeptic. You haven't been here that long, but you'll quickly realize that the large majority of this site has severely limiting beliefs that they aren't willing to change for the world. Multiple people have affirmed that 100% a year isn't even out of the question, until LIQUIDITY CONSTRAINTS begin to limit returns.

Then you get the next reply asking why no one has ran 100K into 1B in 20 years. I would elaborate further but you've clearly made up your minds already.

 

[Commodity_Trader]

Are you saying you can make 10 billion dollars in 10-20 years from trading?

You could finance your own revolution in Iran.

of course i did not say that ,i said 20% return per year with managed drawdowns are possible .my aim is only preserve my consistency in trading and make living income from that (what i do right now)
regarding revolution only stupid people think about revolution and changing the world

 

[Commodity_Trader]

Commodity, you're embarking on a pointless endeavor trying to prove what you know to be true about the market to a skeptic. You haven't been here that long, but you'll quickly realize that the large majority of this site has severely limiting beliefs that they aren't willing to change for the world. Multiple people have affirmed that 100% a year isn't even out of the question, until LIQUIDITY CONSTRAINTS begin to limit returns.

Then you get the next reply asking why no one has ran 100K into 1B in 20 years. I would elaborate further but you've clearly made up your minds already.

the first thing i learnt from trading is that i should delete all bias & pre defined idea's in my mind .i really did not judge if ET members make money or not .the fact is that only a small percentage can achieve that and smaller portion can preserve that .it's almost impossible to move in a direct line forever . my aim is only make an living income and not be a super rich man. i already said that with mange drawdowns and compound interest that may be partially possible.not being in ET a long time doesn't mean that some one doesn't exists .actually profitable traders usually dont waste their time in forums .in my case i posted my results in another thread only to show off about my trading method

 

[Grandluxe]

of course i did not say that ,i said 20% return per year with managed drawdowns are possible .my aim is only preserve my consistency in trading and make living income from that (what i do right now)
regarding revolution only stupid people think about revolution and changing the world

Are you saying you support the current regime?:eek:

 

[drownpruf]

My friend, you are day-dreaming, NOBODY can consistently double his money every year.

At that rate you could turn $10,000 into $10,485,760,000 in 20 years.

Another 10 years and you now have more than 10 TRILLIONS dollars.

+1

It's about as likely as you producing a winning FX trade.

 

[xelite777]

+1

It's about as likely as you producing a winning FX trade.

You never quit, do you?

I suppose you have a 100% winning rate?

And of course the expression "to have a string of losses" does not even exist in your vocabulary, I presume?

No, of course not, Drownpruf is beyond all that nonsense, he just need to push the sell or buy button and a truckload of money starts raining into his trading account, effortlessly. His stops are never triggered and the market immediately moves in his favor the minute he initiates a trade.

Soon, we will not even have to trade anymore, his broker will simply bring him suitcases full of cash at the end of each month!

In other words, he is a master trader and we are just a bunch of losers.

 

[Deep Algorithms]

of course i did not say that ,i said 20% return per year with managed drawdowns are possible .my aim is only preserve my consistency in trading and make living income from that (what i do right now)
regarding revolution only stupid people think about revolution and changing the world

Not to sound argumentative, but I think I was the one that implied that 20% returns are possible, in response to your comment about Warren Buffett. In any case, no you don't need to send me your audited trading results. Though, 1 year of results does not prove a record of consistency. But a return of 100% in any one year is still a great achievement.

Bringing up compounding returns though makes the discussion a bit cloudy. Are you now referring to an average doubling of your initial investment? Because that is a different subject than what others are discussing. In this case, it is a simple math problem to see that to achieve this over n years, you only need a return (x) of:

x = (2*n)^(1/n) - 1

This means, for example, to double $1 every year for 20 years (for a grand total of $40), you only need an annual return of ~20%.