Is it common with brokers that only offer paper (PDF) statements of your account/trading activities?

Scataphagos said:
Sounds like a personal problem. A fact is a fact, regardless of who discloses it.
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LOL:D:D
HOW on God's green earth would i keep up real time[in my head] with my P+L??
SURE i know what about what is is 'cause i record my average cost[7 0r 8 positions + cash] + profit spots .
But i have to keep up with so much stuff, health care scams, trends, bear trends , uptrends\ 200 day moving averages...................................................................................
And sometimes 50dma, 50 week ma[Personal comments + trend comments]:D:D
 
murray t turtle said:
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LOL:D:D
HOW on God's green earth would i keep up real time[in my head] with my P+L??
SURE i know what about what is is 'cause i record my average cost[7 0r 8 positions + cash] + profit spots .
But i have to keep up with so much stuff, health care scams, trends, bear trends , uptrends\ 200 day moving averages...................................................................................
And sometimes 50dma, 50 week ma[Personal comments + trend comments]:D:D
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Whaddaya mean? You're a trader*, aren't you? That's what traders do. :)

*You're not like Bender (Futurama) are you... "you want me to do TWO things"??
 
murray t turtle said:
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LOL:D:D
HOW on God's green earth would i keep up real time[in my head] with my P+L??
SURE i know what about what is is 'cause i record my average cost[7 0r 8 positions + cash] + profit spots .
But i have to keep up with so much stuff, health care scams, trends, bear trends , uptrends\ 200 day moving averages...................................................................................
And sometimes 50dma, 50 week ma[Personal comments + trend comments]:D:D
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Yeah. That's a good point.

I pretty muh day trade one futures market only. So keeping track of that roughly is not a big issue. Also, I can utilize account performance features in Ninjatrader which gives this data accurately for gross performance.

But that's not what I'm asking.

If I were trading multiple symbols like you seem to do I think it would be a nightmare to keep track of.
 
Laissez Faire said:
Yeah. That's a good point.

I pretty much day trade one futures market only. So keeping track of that roughly is not a big issue. Also, I can utilize account performance features in Ninjatrader which gives this data accurately for gross performance.

But that's not what I'm asking.

If I were trading multiple symbols like you seem to do I think it would be a nightmare to keep track of.
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Quote LAfaire ''IS this the industry standard ??'' Sounds like that is less than the industry standard.
It would be a night mare to keep track of penny profits; dollars losses+ profits are easier.
SPXL =3X spy,
SSO = 2x spy,
TQQQ =3xqqq,[sqqq = 3Xqqq inverse]
SPY=S&P 500 or 505LOL
SPXU,SPXS = 3X inverse spy. But brokers have so much regulation to keep up with, i dont blame them for some mistakes:caution::caution: Good bear rally in SPY, cant even close above 200dma
 
No it's not common, I would never ever go with a broker that does not provide electronic statements and order and execution stats online. Much less would I trust that such broker has the capabilities to provide a functional api or execution frontend. Most customers of Wedbush or Dorman probably are ex floor brokers. "call us if you want to inquire about Anything but we provide shit in terms of information on our websites". Heck, some of the above named brokers don't even provide real time commission cost or other execution related cost besides position size and execution prices in their frontend. You need to wait until after the trading session after their sweatshop workers work through their spreadsheets and email you the numbers, lol.

No thanks. Let the old geezers deal with such brokers if it makes their day.

Laissez Faire said:
Hello everyone.

Over the last few years I've been with Dorman Trading through Ninjatrader and eventually moved on to Ninjatrader Brokerage which now have their own brokerage.

Trading wise I don't have any complaints, but I find it cumbersome that if I want to track my performance/equity, the only way to do it is by manually inputting key numbers from my broker statements into Excel.

Simply put: There's no way to log on an online portal to view my equity curve, daily % change, weekly % change, etc.

I can log on to Ninjatrader (the trading software) and see my current account equity. That's it.

I've automated this process in Excel as much as possible, but at the end of the day I still have to physically download PDFs and type in data manually.

I know Dorman have been around like forever and is a solid brokerage. With NT starting a new brokerage in this day and age I figured they would offer something more modern, but still only PDFs.

Is this the industry standard in 2022?

Thanks.
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M.W. said:
No it's not common, I would never ever go with a broker that does not provide electronic statements and order and execution stats online. Much less would I trust that such broker has the capabilities to provide a functional api or execution frontend. Most customers of Wedbush or Dorman probably are ex floor brokers. "call us if you want to inquire about Anything but we provide shit in terms of information on our websites". Heck, some of the above named brokers don't even provide real time commission cost or other execution related cost besides position size and execution prices in their frontend. You need to wait until after the trading session after their sweatshop workers work through their spreadsheets and email you the numbers, lol.

No thanks. Let the old geezers deal with such brokers if it makes their day.
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LOL. Right.

It seems very antiquated to me. I have no complaints about Dorman, though. It's a great broker which is very, very well capitalized.

I figured that when NT is establishing a new brokerage in 2021 they'd be more modern, though.

Which broker are you using for futures then?
 
Laissez Faire said:
Hello everyone.

Over the last few years I've been with Dorman Trading through Ninjatrader and eventually moved on to Ninjatrader Brokerage which now have their own brokerage.

Trading wise I don't have any complaints, but I find it cumbersome that if I want to track my performance/equity, the only way to do it is by manually inputting key numbers from my broker statements into Excel.

Simply put: There's no way to log on an online portal to view my equity curve, daily % change, weekly % change, etc.

I can log on to Ninjatrader (the trading software) and see my current account equity. That's it.

I've automated this process in Excel as much as possible, but at the end of the day I still have to physically download PDFs and type in data manually.

I know Dorman have been around like forever and is a solid brokerage. With NT starting a new brokerage in this day and age I figured they would offer something more modern, but still only PDFs.

Is this the industry standard in 2022?

Thanks.
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Just log into NT and view the performance tab (graphs). From there you have a world of choices. More than I can count, to view your equity curves.
 
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