Is it Capitalism or Corporatism??

Very good point. Add the fact that many politicians sit on the board of many corporations and you have a perfect recipe for a Corporatist society. Corporations effectively buy the government by funding the election campaigns and then giving them positions on the board of directors so they can pursue their agendas with little government interference. This has happened throughout history and now it is happening in the good old US of A.

This doesn't mean there isn't opportunity, however. As long as you're still allowed to hang out a shingle and chart your own course opportunity exists.

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Competitive advantage is about anything but using state power. I am not defining capitalism. If you read again I said it died a long time ago.

In a capitalist system you have many companies competing for profit & market. The last 3 decades has been all about major industry concentration; using mergers & acquisitions. Few companies now effectively dominate any major industry. Familiar with the term "too big too fail". In capitalist free market such a thing would never happen. The systemic risk is too much to emerge naturally.

Many tools have been use to ensure the reign of corporatism. We must not confuse them with being any different.
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Corporatism, I'm writing my grad thesis on it. There isn't much, if any in depth data and research on it. It is exactly what is going on though. I mean companies were gonna go broke, and the government said, "No.".

It's basically socialism for big business and elites instead of the people. I think it is kept out of the public discourse, because if both dem and repub backed tv are arguing the wrong point, it doesn't matter who wins the public's favor.

Our economy is so highly leveraged that any change in "confidence" could set off another crisis. I hope that we can inflate away our debts without killing the dollar or another crisis hits. I don't think so though.

Anyway, corporatism is bad.
 
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That is not what my book says.
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Hydroblunt is correct and your book is wrong.

Capitalists naturally crave a monopoly and the state is the only sure way of getting one. In Buffett language, no "moat" is more effective than state sponsorship.

"Free market capitalism" is the capitalist ideology of those looking to rise.

Corporatism or state-capitalism is the ideology of those who have made it. Look at buffet or the guy in mexico. They work WITH the state and secure legal advantages. the "free market" is for the little people.
 
Competitive advantage is about anything but using state power. I am not defining capitalism. If you read again I said it died a long time ago.
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We are a "socialist nation" period.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/41969508

There are a few of US who make or own way but by in large, we are finished.
 
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It's just capitalism with strong competitive advantages for certain institutions.

Not sure why you think capitalism equals a level playing field. It was never like that.
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Thank you, and exactly! What these blokes are calling corporatism is simply a form of capitalism, for which see any dictionary. These folks don't know what capitalism is and that it is not merely capital and the means of production in private hands. They usually confuse it with free competition, which is something else entirely.
 
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That is not what my book says.
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Capitalism was not created via a book or theory. It emerged as a real life practice & methodology in Europe.

Corporations lobby the government for purely capitalist reasons.
 
this is "fuckism"...
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Corporatism: “The use of STATE power to enhance & protect the economic & political power of a favored few at the expense of the rest”.

Blurry is the line where capitalism ends & corporatism begins. Mistaken to be 2 branches of the same tree; they are in fact 2 very different trees.

I personally believe the world has been under corporatism for a very long time, perhaps since 1945.

The economic-political order under corporatism only brings inequality, wars, fiat currency and huge monopolies.

We can not understand the full implications of our times if we fail to recognize that Capitalism died a long time ago.
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