Is homosexuality a choice?

[Capablanca]

Quote from ARealGannTrader:

My argument is that it is not a compulsion, one can choose to not engage in this behavior.

How many straight men do you know who have decided not to have sex with a woman?

How many guys do you know that have chosen not to masturbate?

Strictly speaking all the above are choices. But how many of us would say they are realistic choices?

Let's face it even marriage is entered into by the vast majority of the population. Why? Explain it. One might think as a kid the choice NOT to marry would be easier. Growing up disabuses people of that notion.


Here's a test for you: Why don't you choose to refrain from ever masturbating or being sexually stimulated.

Tell us how long you last.

 

[jficquette]

Quote from ARealGannTrader:

Hillary has a resume and the political and financial resources of a former first lady to a popular president.

If there was a way to bring Obama down, she and her team would have discovered it, and driven it home.

Apparently not.

 

[Rearden Metal]

When constructing this poll, I put in the second option ("Yes; I had to choose to be straight, they choose to be gay"), more to make a point than as a serious option. I expected <b>no one</b> would reply that they actually 'chose' to be straight- or maybe at most one or two clowns would pick this option as a gag.

The poll results so far (15% actually made a <b>choice</b> to be straight) come as a bit of a surprise to me, meaning that 15% of the straight guys here were apparently tempted to swing the other way at some point. That's the only explanation I can come up with.

 

[hughb]

Quote from Rearden Metal:



The poll results so far (15% actually made a <b>choice</b> to be straight) come as a bit of a surprise to me, meaning that 15% of the straight guys here were apparently tempted to swing the other way at some point. That's the only explanation I can come up with.

They saw all of those goddam straight men and women smooching on their TV's and throwing all of that heterosexual bullshit in their face and they went down the heterosexuality road.

 

[Cutten]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

Admitting that homosexuality isn't a 'lifestyle choice' doesn't mean you have to support gay rights or gay marriage in the slightest- These are entirely separate issues.

I find it strange that some people (who never chose their own sexual orientation) still believe one has the ability to 'choose' to be gay.

Are you talking sexual inclination or sexual behaviour?

 

[Cutten]

Quote from ARealGannTrader:

Hi Rearden,

Thanks for reading my views.

Yes, homosexuality as a behavior is a
choice. Much like preferring blondes, or brunettes, or long incarcerated people insisting that they are not gay
although they have engaged in same sex activities.

One can have an addictive personality as well, and choose not to engage in activities that are likely to make them addicted.

One can equally love women, and not engage in activity that is likely to ruin their marriage or hetero relationship.

So if a man or woman is sexually attracted to members of their same sex, they are by no means obligated to pursue that choice, nor are they obliged to make others find that choice less socially deviant.

And, make no mistake, based on our societal mores it IS considered socially deviant.

Sexual behaviour is not the same as sexual preference.

 

[Cutten]

Quote from ARealGannTrader:


I chose not to be gay the first time I was approached by a gay man.

There, simple.

Er, no you didn't. Your "choice" was dictated to you years ago when you were born & developed with straight sexuality, thus not getting sexually aroused by the same sex. You were not gay way before you even knew what "gay" meant.

Turning the gay guy down was no more a choice than it would be a choice to get a hard-on if 6 gorgeous naked women start trying to screw your brains out in a hot tub.

 

[Cutten]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

When constructing this poll, I put in the second option ("Yes; I had to choose to be straight, they choose to be gay"), more to make a point than as a serious option. I expected <b>no one</b> would reply that they actually 'chose' to be straight- or maybe at most one or two clowns would pick this option as a gag.

The poll results so far (15% actually made a <b>choice</b> to be straight) come as a bit of a surprise to me, meaning that 15% of the straight guys here were apparently tempted to swing the other way at some point. That's the only explanation I can come up with.

Well Rearden why is that a surprise? Most studies put bisexual/bicurious people at numbers near that. 5% gay, 15% bi/bicurious would not surprise me at all. Of course the vast majority of those will be somewhat or fully in the closet, adopting the "wide stance" and checking out gay porn on the sly while their wife wonders what's wrong.

 

[Cutten]

Quote from ARealGannTrader:

Looks like marriage is overwhelmingly defined as a union between male and female.

So what are gays trying to accomplish other than access to public funds via tax incentives to further an agenda that has no positive societal purpose?

Presumably things like legal status for one partner if the other becomes incapacitated, or a reliable division of assets decided by a legal authority in the event of separation, or the right to move to and live in the country their partner lives and works in etc.

I will never get married, but in the event that I ever settle down seriously with a woman, I'd like both of us to have the right to decide whether the life support machine gets turned off or stays on, for example. I'd also like equal recognition for visa/residency rights as married couples.

 

[Cutten]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

"Homosexuality has no purpose other than hedonism."

So then:

Masturbation has no purpose than hedonism...

Straight sex has no purpose other than hedonism, unless it is for the sole purpose of procreation...

Lol...and any woman over 40, or any man having sex with said woman, or any infertile person, has no purpose other than hedonism.