Is homosexuality a choice?

Is homosexuality a choice?

  • Nope, not a choice at all.

    Votes: 43 60.6%
  • Yes; I had to choose to be straight, they choose to be gay.

    Votes: 9 12.7%
  • Yes, it's a choice- Although I never chose my own sexual orientation.

    Votes: 9 12.7%
  • Not sure.

    Votes: 10 14.1%

  • Total voters
    71
Doesn't really matter if it is a choice or not...

Bottom line would be if a person has the Constitutional right to act on that choice.

If there was no innate Constitutional right to act on that choice with another consenting adult, and also to be married, there would never have been any talk of a Constitutional amendment to prevent the choice of gays to marry...

We had a Constitutional amendment at one time that prevented buying or selling, and transport of booze.

Certainly drinking booze or sticking a needle in one's arm to get high is a choice.

However, if these actions don't harm anyone but the person drinking or doing drugs, should the government prohibit people from these choices?

Apparently not, as they discovered the revenue stream available both above board and in the black market.

There isn't any money to be made from gay marriage, so what incentive is there to allow the same essential freedom that is granted to straights as gays?

I've said this before, and it bears repeating.

The only reasonable thing to do is to approach this scientifically, not religiously.

Allow gay marriage. Then track the results of gay marriage on the participants and the family members (including children adopted or born of surrogates) and see if there is a genuine danger to America as a result of gay marriage.

We let consenting adults smoke themselves to death, and let adults eat and drink themselves to death, but people want to prohibit gays from the joys and sorrow of marriage? We want to keep other Americans from life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?

It really makes no sense, which is why we see the nonsensical opposition from the religious kooks who care more about what other people do in their lives than they do about practicing their own religion of perfecting themselves in their own lives...
 
If we have agreed that it is not a choice (I believe it is not) then who are we to tell them how reach sexual happiness?

I have seen homosexuals in the most rigid and homophobe societies. If they resisted any attempt to force conformity on them in these countries, including sever prosecution such as the execution of two homosexuals in Iran, how in gods name can we say, while keeping a straight face, that it is their choice?
 
Quote from bond_trad3r:

I don't like the options and refuse to vote.

I think for some people its a choice
For others (a majority I'm assuming) it is not a choice


I was hanging out with chick the other day. We were about to get a bite to eat and go home after a social gathering when we bumped into one of her friends. She was with her own female friends. They were hot and seemed friendly enough. They invited us to go to a nearby club. We agreed. 20 seconds before I walk in the door, I find out it was a gay club (FUCK!!, it's too late the back out now and these girls are probably lesbians.) I was thinking this was going to be a very boring night and the male dancers were disgusting. I was pissed but just tried to stay cool and try and enjoy the music. Within an hour I was starting to dance with the girl I came with and the other chicks (who were indeed lesbians). I thought they were just being polite as they clearly saw I was not gay and had no interest in the guys. That was until we started dirty dancing. (hmmm. maybe they're bisexual) By the time the place was closing I had made out with 3 of the 5 chicks, including the one I was out with originally. The ride back to their place was especially fun. To this day the decision to continue to walk in the gay club lead to one of the most wild nights with the ladies ever. Irony!

And before I get the ladyboy jokes, they were college aged females! Apparently just four lesbian roommates who were excited to meet a man that was non-judgmental and was willing to goto a gay bar even though I was not gay.

If this post may seem like I'm bragging, you're right. Now you may fire away with the ladyboy jokes. I don't give a shit. :p

Everybody...To the gay bars we go! :D :D
 
Quote from ARealGannTrader:

Let me be the first.

I chose not to be gay the first time I was approached by a gay man.

There, simple.

I'm not so sure about that. If a dog starts humping your leg, do you really have to <i>choose</i> not to hump it back?

I think it's more like an instictive complete lack of desire for sexual activity with anyone or anything that isn't an attractive female human.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

...The only reasonable thing to do is to approach this scientifically, not religiously...
Good point. May I refer to this comment of yours in other exchanges that may arise? Evolution, perhaps? :D
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

Admitting that homosexuality isn't a 'lifestyle choice' doesn't mean you have to support gay rights or gay marriage in the slightest- These are entirely separate issues.

I find it strange that some people (who never chose their own sexual orientation) still believe one has the ability to 'choose' to be gay.

You're into the scientific method, RM.

In fact, it supports many of the positions you've taken, many of which I absolutely agree with, and that some claim are 'radical.'

One example of this is the ability to treat depression far more effectively with opiates, opiate derived meds, or synthetic opiates (or the like), than with the incredibly ineffective SSRIs and other 'miracle meds' that have been pushed so stunningly successfully by Big Pharma (despite clear evidence they wreak havoc on many of the body's systems and are no more effective than placebo meds).

Well, that same scientific method, whenever it's been rigorously applied, has indicated that there is little if any doubt that there is a strong genetic predisposition to homosexuality.

Whether additional factors, whether biological or societal (nature versus nurture), play a role in 'pushing' people towards homosexuality, exist - well, that's worthy of further research.

It's well known that a much larger % of gay females have higher levels of testosterone and lower levels of estrogen than the female population as a whole.
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

I'm not so sure about that. If a dog starts humping your leg, do you really have to <i>choose</i> not to hump it back?

I think it's more like an instictive complete lack of desire for sexual activity with anyone or anything that isn't an attractive female human.
Yes, I think that sums it up. Anyone who has to consciously choose is probably resisting an opposing urge.
 
I don't know why not.

Evolution has nothing to do with the possibility of, likelihood of, or actual existence of God...

You atheists really need to let go of your own western Judeo-Christian foundation and perspective of your atheism. It really is quite primitive...

Quote from Thunderdog:

Good point. May I refer to this comment of yours in other exchanges that may arise? Evolution, perhaps? :D
 
Resisting and controlling urges and basic instinctual behavior based on choices that are more "enlightened" is what civilization is all about...

Whether the urge is to have sex with the opposite sex, or same sex, it is still an urge.

The urge by the homophobes to hate gays and deny them Constitutional rights for the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness needs to be resisted as well as any other primitive urge...



Quote from Thunderdog:

Yes, I think that sums it up. Anyone who has to consciously choose is probably resisting an opposing urge.
 
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