Is God mute?

[stu]

I would not dismiss imagination as trivial. In fact I would say that without imagination there would be no science at all. We would never question the conventional wisdom of the time. Imagination was all that our ancient ancestors had as they viewed the heavens. What if was the question. What if we had something that could see beyond out own eyes? What if is the question every person of science must have. It's imagination that drives us. None of this is settled science/belief, no matter how much the political ideology of any party wants it to be.

And yet you dismissed my imagination, (albeit self-evidently a little more than mere imagination), for Mother Goose being in an equivalency with God. You called it childish.(and God isn't?!)

If you were asked to imagine what might enable you to ascend into the sky like a bird, would you imagine Jack's Beanstalk, or have the imagination to think of things in the way of aerodynamics. If you do the former, that's trivial.

I'm saying it's trivial to imagine anything is possible only because you imagine it is. You may imagine God or a Higher Consciousness, I imagine something more than God and higher than a Higher Consciousness. Both our imaginations in that regard are trivial.

 

[jimmiebarton]

I would not dismiss imagination as trivial. In fact I would say that without imagination there would be no science at all. We would never question the conventional wisdom of the time. Imagination was all that our ancient ancestors had as they viewed the heavens. What if was the question. What if we had something that could see beyond out own eyes? What if is the question every person of science must have. It's imagination that drives us. None of this is settled science/belief, no matter how much the political ideology of any party wants it to be.

Many like to imagine "anything is possible" but that's not true. Most things are impossible. That's a fact!

The rest fall in the range between unlikely and likely.

 

[loyek590]

Many like to imagine "anything is possible" but that's not true. Most things are impossible. That's a fact!

The rest fall in the range between unlikely and likely.

if enough people imagine the stock market will go higher it usually goes higher. When too many people wish the stock market would go higher it usually goes lower.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Many like to imagine "anything is possible" but that's not true. Most things are impossible. That's a fact!

The rest fall in the range between unlikely and likely.

What's impossible today will be possible tomorrow. That has been a fact proven out by history. Just because we currently don't have the tools to measure or see something does not mean that those things don't exist. I'm just taking the position that given enough time anything, the craziest most unimaginable things will come to pass. As an example, a universe that evolved from the vast emptiness of space. A savage beast that evolves into a self aware human being. Our existence is the perfect example of the impossible becoming reality. All it took was time.

 

[jimmiebarton]

if enough people imagine the stock market will go higher it usually goes higher. When too many people wish the stock market would go higher it usually goes lower.

if enough algos imagine the stock market will go higher it usually goes higher. When too many algos wish stock market would go lower it usually goes lower.

I fixed it for you

 

[jimmiebarton]

What's impossible today will be possible tomorrow. That has been a fact proven out by history. Just because we currently don't have the tools to measure or see something does not mean that those things don't exist. I'm just taking the position that given enough time anything, the craziest most unimaginable things will come to pass. As an example, a universe that evolved from the vast emptiness of space. A savage beast that evolves into a self aware human being. Our existence is the perfect example of the impossible becoming reality. All it took was time.

Absolutely false. Most impossible things will remain impossible forever. A few (very few) things thought to be impossible (falsely) will become possible. Of course those were never impossible to begin with.

The point is you can imagine many many many more things that cannot ever become possible.

 

[stu]

What's impossible today will be possible tomorrow.

Come on. Things are not possible or impossible just because you imagine they are either.

 

[jimmiebarton]

Come on. Things are not possible or impossible just because you imagine they are either.

Truer to the point.

stu, you're mind is a beautiful thing

 

[CaptainObvious]

Come on. Things are not possible or impossible just because you imagine they are either.

I'm saying that what we believe to be impossible is not necessarily so. Flight? Impossible. Man on the moon. Impossible. See galaxies millions of light years away. Impossible. You want, or I think you want, an explanation for all of this to be like simple arithmetic. 2+2=4. It's not arithmetic. Arithmetic is static. It is what it is, period. What we're using is math, very complicated math, and math evolves. It changes as we learn more. There are a crap load of variables. Change just one and the whole game is different. We haven't even scratched the surface on what is possible and what isn't.

 

[loyek590]

the one that cracked me up was an article in the Scientific Journal about 4 years after the Wright Brothers first flight at Kitty Hawk explaining why a heavier than air flying machine was physically impossible.