Is everyone in a fullblown panic because of coronavirus?

El OchoCinco said:
Most of those bars would have been empty anyway as most people are staying home. A business should have the right to make their own decision but this is a national health risk issue that overrides that.

Rudy Gobert laughed at being cautious and then he has it and infected his teammate. What if Donovan Mitchell was visiting his parents and grandmother on the day off while at home and did not know he had it and in 5 more days they pop up with it.

You may not be affected too much by it but you could give it to 5 other people who will be.

It is a tough decision to make but you have to look at the bigger picture. I would rather things close for 2 weeks and the State spends money to help those business who would have lost money anyway staying open but not prevent spreading, then spend 2x as much money on the health care system that will be run over.
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My counter argument is based upon what happens in two weeks? By all accounts this will continue to spread over the coming weeks and months meaning the death count will rise and quite dramatically by all assessments. Then what? How long do we shutdown all business? What kind of panic and revolt results from that? If we need to put the National Guard in front of hospitals to keep the non dying morons away, then so be it. That's a hell of a lot easier to manage than tens of millions going broke daily. You think everyone is just going to lay down for that? There is no easy path, it's about long term damage control and we're not going about it in the right way, IMO. Respectfully.
 
CaptainObvious said:
My counter argument is based upon what happens is two weeks? By all accounts this will continue to spread over the coming weeks and months meaning the death count will rise and quite dramatically by all assessments. Then what? How long do we shutdown all business? What kind of panic and revolt results from that? If we need to put the National Guard in front of hospitals to keep the non dying morons away, then so be it. That's a hell of a lot easier to manage than tens of millions going broke daily. You think everyone is just going to lay down for that? There is no easy path, it's about long term damage control and we're not going about it in the right way, IMO. Respectfully.
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I think anecdotal evidence from China, Italy and even South Korea shows that a few weeks is all that is needed to slow down the curve to a bearable level and then deal with and buy some time. The State and Federal government have more tools to support those who will suffer from 2-4 weeks shutdowns than deal with millions of people affected versus 50,000. Remember millions of infected people will have to stay home from work for 2 weeks. Imagine a whole plant with 60% of the workforce at home because of community spread.

You have two major problems and the easier is shutting down now and paying for it later with full government support (this is truly what they were made for) then let it run random and wild and watch entire markets have to shut down involuntarily for months at a time as the spread is uncontained.

Viruses have a shelf life as long as spread can be modified. Flu does not spread this way because when I am contagious I start showing symptoms and can stay home for a few days. Corona symptoms means you were just contagious for 10 days and could have been around 100 people and there is not limit to spread. If 20 people catch it then those people spent 10 days around 100 people.

We are amputating the foot to save the leg but in this case the government can make the foot grow back with the right policies .
 
CaptainObvious said:
My counter argument is based upon what happens in two weeks? By all accounts this will continue to spread over the coming weeks and months meaning the death count will rise and quite dramatically by all assessments. Then what? How long do we shutdown all business? What kind of panic and revolt results from that? If we need to put the National Guard in front of hospitals to keep the non dying morons away, then so be it. That's a hell of a lot easier to manage than tens of millions going broke daily. You think everyone is just going to lay down for that? There is no easy path, it's about long term damage control and we're not going about it in the right way, IMO. Respectfully.
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what is your point? things are shitty and they are getting shittier every day. are you suggesting to have everyplace open so you feel freer? social distancing works, if you get butthurt cause they are closing the bars, then go ahead, drive to the closest bar and drink yourself to death so you can feel your freedom is preserved. instead of constant "then fucking what?" just deal with the issues day by day and we will figure it out. right now social distancing is what it works. stick to that. slow business is better than being dead with no business.
 
Business and the economy will recover. Right now the focus is in saving people and trying to get morgues not to have to turn down clients.
 
constitutionman said:
what is your point? things are shitty and they are getting shittier every day. are you suggesting to have everyplace open so you feel freer? social distancing works, if you get butthurt cause they are closing the bars, then go ahead, drive to the closest bar and drink yourself to death so you can feel your freedom is preserved. instead of constant "then fucking what?" just deal with the issues day by day and we will figure it out. right now social distancing is what it works. stick to that. slow business is better than being dead with no business.
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My point is not that many people are going to die and this will be no better two weeks from now than it is today. My final point I'll make is that if a mere 3 weeks ago I woulf have told you that government would be mandating every school and business to shutdown all of you would have called me unhinged. Today it's happening and everyone just rolls over. That won't last long as the money runs dry. Well now I'm telling you that a major revolt is coming and its coming when they extend this shutdown, which is inevitable.
 
CaptainObvious said:
My point is not that many people are going to die and this will be no better two weeks from now than it is today. My final point I'll make is that if a mere 3 weeks ago I woulf have told you that government would be mandating every school and business to shutdown all of you would have called me unhinged. Today it's happening and everyone just rolls over. That won't last long as the money runs dry. Well now I'm telling you that a major revolt is coming and its coming when they extend this shutdown, which is inevitable.
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dude, nothing has been normal in the past 3 years, my head spins whit all the batshit crazy stuff that we have seen, as you said, it is inevitable so live, love and laugh! (assuming we can fucking breath)
 
There's a lot of weird stuff out there even in normal times.

I was at Walmart a few days ago and saw this older lady with a shopping cart filled to the brim with cans of cat food.

I was scratching my head trying to think how the hell someone concludes that the coronavirus is going to interrupt the supply chain for cat food then I realized that she was probably hoarding cat food for the seventy cats that she is also hoarding at home.

Not a lot of mental health out there in the general population.

Oh, and just so that you don't think I am totally naive, I do realize that was probably not the first or the last trip she made to Walmart for cat food that day. I should have asked her where she lives in case I need to put a couple of those cats on the grill at some point in the future.

:cool:
 
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