Is Daytrading difficult or impossible ?

[wrbtrader]

No, trading on purely mathematical models.

I'm not being sarcastic but don't all indicators have a mathematical model ?

It seems to me that the basic mathematical models are stuff like stochastics, MACD, moving averages and so on. In contrast, the more advance mathematical models are those used in HFT, algorithms and such.

You can correct me if I'm wrong. My questions or curiosity are via listening to several quants.

 

[Xela]

I'm not being sarcastic but don't all indicators have a mathematical model ?

I think they all have a mathematical construction-model or construction-formulation, but "mathematical model" in the sense of trading-styles in general has a slightly different and rather broader meaning, really?

 

[justrading]

I think they all have a mathematical construction-model or construction-formulation, but "mathematical model" in the sense of trading-styles in general has a slightly different and rather broader meaning, really?

Excellent point, it does get a lot more complicated than the basics of indicators.

To be clear, I'm not belittling indicators. I can trade profitably with RSI or MACD anytime, so if anyone uses such please don't feel slighted.

 

[comagnum]

Is Daytrading difficult or impossible ?

Yea, of course it is difficult - since when is making $ ever easy?
Impossible? Of course not - just like getting in shape, everyone wants to but few are willing to put in the time & effort required.

Just a fun fact - many of the indicators used in trading have been used in science & engineering long before they were applied to trading.

 

[justrading]

Just a fun fact - many of the indicators used in trading have been used in science & engineering long before they were applied to trading.

I have no doubt of your statement sir, and if anyone doubts the veracity, please research Ergodic, something I still lean on for a quick visual pointer.

Credit where it is due, it would be quite useless to me were it not for a rather bland statement by the late Jack Hershey about tweaking MACD. I did rather the same, and have no regrets for the huge work it required to become useful to me.

When too busy for the esoteric, a quick glance tells it all.

 

[volpri]

Gotta better one

Or the account is closed by the margin clerk

ROFLMAO

 

[volpri]

No, trading on purely mathematical models.

Uh oh. Sooner or later math quits working cause it is an exact and precise science and price action changes and is affected by so many variables so something exact will not always render and may even stop rendering at all and may even go negative in a world of uncertainty. The trading world.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ld-s-fastest-traders-why-aren-t-they-thriving

 

[justrading]

Well thank goodness a margin clerk didn't decide the outcome of the Blitz.

We would live in a very different world today if it were so.

Do read the history, it is so beautiful.

After weeks of agony, it suddenly went quiet, and the bombs were no more.

It had ended.

Also read Churchill's speeches of that era for sheer brilliance.

 

[digitalnomad]

It seems to me that the basic mathematical models are stuff like stochastics, MACD, moving averages and so on.

Correct, but trade management makes or breaks a strategy. Without it, the above become useless. I personally don't use any of that stuff.

 

[volpri]