Is day trading worth it?

No, I don't check out curve fitters who makes money from subscribers rather than from the market. They seem unable to make money from the market.

Your don't have to trade forex. As far as I can see, all markets work the same way. So feel free to demonstrate an edge. If I have access to that market then I will be happy to put some money on it to make the demonstration real. As you probably know, the market only cares and reacts to real money.

Usually those signal providers share's their mediocre systems for subscribers
and keeps some of the best strat for themselves to trade at least for stocks
and futures that is.

How can it be curve fitting if their making cash on real trades ?
 
Usually those signal providers share's their mediocre systems for subscribers
and keeps some of the best strat for themselves to trade at least for stocks
and futures that is.

How can it be curve fitting if their making cash on real trades ?

They are not
 
Usually those signal providers share's their mediocre systems for subscribers
and keeps some of the best strat for themselves to trade at least for stocks
and futures that is.

How can it be curve fitting if their making cash on real trades ?

A better question is: if they can withdraw money from the market, why do they need subscribers ? Are you quite sure you trade ? This is the beginner stuff.
 
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instead of theorizing all the time, have you ever actually daytraded futures ? theres plenty of edge that are retail exploitable, just have to look in the right places

Theorizing is all he has going for him. Definition of this, study for that, they don't exist, not possible for retail, etc. This is what makes his ignorance so amusing. There is almost an element of drama to it. He truly believes he is right about trading. Of course he will talk about his "industry" experience but ask yourself the question. In all of his years of trying the guy has never been profitable and all that industry experience certainly didn't help him make money from trading, so why should you care about it and interestingly why does he? What is the value of a tool that doesn't just fail to assist you in achieving a goal but can also prevent you from succeeding by discouragement? The answer - worthless.

Here is something of actual value from my own experience. A lesson I've learned during my years. Every successful trader I know has learned this one thing probably the hard way - not to use worthless tools.
 
Here is something of actual value from my own experience. A lesson I've learned during my years. Every successful trader I know has learned this one thing probably the hard way - not to use worthless tools.

With all your years of learning, I presume you are now in a position to tell us which tools are worthless ? Which would they be, or would this answer give me a free edge and therefore you cannot say ?
 
Theorizing is all he has going for him. Definition of this, study for that, they don't exist, not possible for retail, etc. This is what makes his ignorance so amusing. There is almost an element of drama to it. He truly believes he is right about trading. Of course he will talk about his "industry" experience but ask yourself the question. In all of his years of trying the guy has never been profitable and all that industry experience certainly didn't help him make money from trading, so why should you care about it and interestingly why does he? What is the value of a tool that doesn't just fail to assist you in achieving a goal but can also prevent you from succeeding by discouragement? The answer - worthless.

Here is something of actual value from my own experience. A lesson I've learned during my years. Every successful trader I know has learned this one thing probably the hard way - not to use worthless tools.

Show it to me. Im not talking about W2's , audits or any other nonsense. Show me any at home,DIY day trader with no other source of income and no inherited wealth or succesful spouse who has lived the equivalent lifestyle greater than a McDonalds or other low level manager /chef for a decade or longer.

They don't exist and dats a fact

Surf
 
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Since the "successful" home traders are not doing trading, at least not that I can see, I guess I have to make up for their deficiency. So, here's one with a green arrow.

WeZr
 
Rally, don't get caught in a 'surfer vortex' , these guys are begging for edge as clear as day. I know it's not right for even an Internet persona to mock what's been accomplished by a few of us..instead just count the positive things making us wealthy here have done.

Save the edge advice for people who know what to do with it!
 
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