Is Chicago turning into the next detroit, harare, johannesburg,lagos..?

Maverick74 · Jun 21, 2012

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I think history supplies pretty good evidence that class warfare mostly arises where there are 1) strong class divisions, and 2) weak legitimacy for those divisions--"incitement" follows the emergence of the problem.

I wouldn't expect to find much class warfare in the more egalitarian societies. : P

Ricter, let me know the next time you are in Chicago. I'll take you to some places. And then you can tell me about "the problem".

PiggyBank · Jun 21, 2012

Quote from Ricter:

I think history supplies pretty good evidence that class warfare mostly arises where there are 1) strong class divisions, and 2) weak legitimacy for those divisions--"incitement" follows the emergence of the problem.

I wouldn't expect to find much class warfare in the more egalitarian societies. : P

What are these mysterious 'more egalitarian societies'?

Ricter · Jun 21, 2012

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What are these mysterious 'more egalitarian societies'?

Google is your friend, gini coefficient is your entry.

Ricter · Jun 21, 2012

Quote from Maverick74:

Ricter, let me know the next time you are in Chicago. I'll take you to some places. And then you can tell me about "the problem".

Lol, I don't go to any bad areas wherever I travel, I stick to resorts.

By the way, the area 10-15 blocks west and somewhat north of downtown Chicago, bad area?

Maverick74 · Jun 21, 2012

Quote from Ricter:

Lol, I don't go to any bad areas wherever I travel, I stick to resorts.

By the way, the area 10-15 blocks west and somewhat north of downtown Chicago, bad area?

I don't blame you. Liberals live as far away from blacks and Latinos as they possibly can. Go figure huh. I wouldn't go more then 5 blocks west of downtown. Wicker Park and Bucktown are OK but they hug the blue line just to the near west and north of downtown.

Ricter · Jun 21, 2012

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I don't blame you. Liberals live as far away from blacks and Latinos as they possibly can. Go figure huh. I wouldn't go more then 5 blocks west of downtown. Wicker Park and Bucktown are OK but they hug the blue line just to the near west and north of downtown.

Everyone, regardless of race or political stripe, lives as far from the poor as they can afford.

Maverick74 · Jun 21, 2012

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Everyone, regardless of race or political stripe, lives as far from the poor as they can afford.

Everyone? Come on. It's my experience that white conservatives in general are more likely to live among poor blacks and latinos then liberals. Why would you want to live "far" away from the poor. There is a distinction between "poor" areas and "crime areas with poor people".

Ricter · Jun 21, 2012

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Everyone? Come on. It's my experience that white conservatives in general are more likely to live among poor blacks and latinos then liberals. Why would you want to live "far" away from the poor. There is a distinction between "poor" areas and "crime areas with poor people".

Judging by the types of complaints we see right here I suspect you're right. Grandluxe probably lives in a ghetto.

AAAintheBeltway · Jun 21, 2012

Quote from Maverick74:

Ricter, in my humble opinion, I think the phenomenon of increasing crime during periods of economic slowdown are caused in large part do the the class warfare perpetuated by the left. You get the left beating the drum every day about the haves and have nots. That gets inside these kid's heads. It angers them. And then they act. Nobody wins the class warfare game Ricter, nobody.

You're absolutely right, but you're wasting your time arguing with that idiot. I'm guessing he took a marxist econ theory class once and has been spouting that drivel ever since. His answer for every social pathology is poverty, class division, income inequality ,etc, ie total marxist class theory.

What he is missing is that there is a quantifiable difference in crime like car theft and large mobs running wild. One is crime, the other anarchy. You can bet if white mobs were running wild and attacking blacks and gays, there would be hell to pay. Every National Guard unit in Illinois would be called up and thousands of FBI agents would be on it. The thugs who run Chicago know the game is up, but they have a few years left to line their pockets before the SHTF.

Ricter · Jun 21, 2012

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You're absolutely right, but you're wasting your time arguing with that idiot. I'm guessing he took a marxist econ theory class once and has been spouting that drivel ever since. His answer for every social pathology is poverty, class division, income inequality ,etc, ie total marxist class theory.

What he is missing is that there is a quantifiable difference in crime like car theft and large mobs running wild. One is crime, the other anarchy. You can bet if white mobs were running wild and attacking blacks and gays, there would be hell to pay. Every National Guard unit in Illinois would be called up and thousands of FBI agents would be on it. The thugs who run Chicago know the game is up, but they have a few years left to line their pockets before the SHTF.

"White" mobs might run wild and attack "blacks" because of the wealth gap??