is Cathie Wood’s fund in trouble?
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/m...ys-innovation-stocks-are-deep-value-two-major
Looks like she is asking for a 5-year horizon before being judged.
Well, to be fair, if you did buy-in half a decade ago, you are technically still up a little.
Looks like she is asking for a 5-year horizon before being judged.
Well, to be fair, if you did buy-in half a decade ago, you are technically still up a little.
Poor Vic, I thought he was a hell of a good stock investor. I retired off IOM, Snapple, and Boston Chicken and live in a trailer park. Thank you Gardner Bros!
Somebody in the Financial Media grew some balls.
Being the most successful doesn't mean you're the smartest or most logical. There's plenty of smart people who aren't always logical. Hubris often gets in the way. There's a lot of factors in play. Where you came from, who you know, your level of ambition, how well you interview, interests, other psychological factors, etc. I'm not going to listen to the person who won lottery tell me how to pick the Powerball. So far if you take TSLA out of her portfolio it's dogshit. Her fund has been around now for over 7 years. Every time I listen to her speak on TV she's speaking in hypotheticals of a technological revolution with unprecedented growth as if she has a crystal ball that her companies will all grow over the decade at rates really only a few companies did over the previous one. Her fund is down 60%. The most QQQ was down during the pandemic was 30%. Maybe she'll have the last laugh one day, but her track record thus far does not indicate to me that she really knows what she's doing. After being in the game over the past decade the one thing I've learned is that there's way more hucksters than people who can explain their ideas based on solid research and data.
This is true. But to be honest, she did mention somewhere that she knew most in her portfolio would under-perform. But the goal was to hit a few lucky 100+ baggers to raise the average performance.
in defense, ZM wouldn’t have to grow that much because their variable margins will be much higher than the SPX as a whole.
At 60 x sales, if ZM were to stay at 25-30% profit margins (similar to AAPL) and keep up a growth rate of 25%/year, they could reach AAPL's current P/S of 8 and 28 P/E ratios. Now ZM after dropping 75% from those levels she started buying, 1.3 years later it is priced at a P/S of 10 and P/E of 33 and it looks more reasonably priced.
I personally would still rather own AAPL, MSFT, GOOG, and AMZN long-term (companies that have continuously innovated and I've used/purchased more and more goods/services from throughout the years) until ZM starts impacting my life in more ways.
For comparison, let's look at what buying ATH ( Athabaska Oil ) on the TSX has returned : 5 days 13%, 1 month 23%, 6 months 143%, 1 yr 288%. Now that's a trend and it's not done yet. I started buying it at 15 cents late 2020.
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