Quote from hapaboy:
ROFL! Optional, there you go again! Yeah, you got me, I'm really one of OBL's boys! Terrific logic sequence there.
Where is your scientific evidence that some human beings are NOT just plain evil? History has proven me right; the onus is on you to prove otherwise. My proof is in the yearly slaughter of our fellow citizens despite decades of your type of "research" going on.
Yes, progress has been made in many fields. I applaud that. Really. But you propose to allow the continued slaughter of thousands until that elusive scientific cause for murder that you insist is out there is found.
If you don't like the word "evil," how's this:
Some people just don't give a damn about anyone else. Another human being's life has no value to them. Does it mean they're necessarily evil? Debatable. Are they scientifically or genetically different from anybody else? Should we give scientists the time and resources to find the "I-don't-give-a-damn-about-anyone-else" gene? Does it even exist?
Is science your cure for all that ails the world?
Since you think I'm one of OBL's boys, you must be the second coming of the Unabomber.
You can stray from the proper methods of debate, by the use of strawman arguments, ad hominess attacks, exaggeration, changing the point etc., but the fact remains that you refused to address many of the points, valid points, of my last post.
The more evolved person, can discern the difference between an evil act, and evil itself.
Killing is not evil, as killing in self defense is not considered evil.
It is in the intent that evil is characterized and judged. It is the mind that kills, as the body is a slave to the mind. So, it is essentially the thinking, which rules the mind that leads to action, deemed either good or evil action.
You have claimed that some people are evil, yet provide no explanation for that belief. When I ask for proof, you retort like a child "prove it doesn't."
The responsibility is not on my side to prove that people aren't evil. People can act with evil intent, but people can also, and have also reformed from their evil intents of the past.
St. Paul is a famous individual who was able to reform, able to change, able to see things differently.
There are many who try to explain his conversion process, from both spiritual and scientific perspectives, but the fact which remains is that he did in fact change his point of view.
The human mind is capable of change.
The mind is still mysterious to most of us. No doubt, we are just in the primitive stages of understanding brain chemistry and human psychology, and those "demons" that cause man to act in an evil manner.
My point is, that if it not necessary to kill to protect others, if redemption is possible, from both a scientific and religious perspective (I am speaking New Testament here, as Jesus taught forgiveness and redemption), they why on earth would a peace loving, evolved, religious, compassionate, and scientific person not give science or religion an opportunity to reform a soul?
You would kill that person who committed acts of evil, without even having an explanation as to the cause of the evil actions.
You would deny a soul their chance for redemption, rehabilitation, by unnecessary termination of their life for the sake of vengeance, which isn't your God granted right to act upon.
Should we give scientists and theologians every possible chance to discover and heal the minds of men who are compelled to take the life of another man?
Yes, by all means.
