Quote from hapaboy:
Okay, I'll try to take you seriously for a moment. I believe there are those who wish to attack us and inflict as much harm as possible on our country and our fellow citizens. Why do I believe this? Because I read what they write, hear what they say, and see what they do.
Should a nuke go off and destroy NYC or D.C., who is to say what will happen. I would prefer we avoid that happening in the first place, understand? The way to do this is to confront the radical Islamists who would kill us if given the opportunity. They are not going to go away simply because we ask them to. Anyone who believes that has his/her head up their ass.
Would I surrender my weapons and let the US military cart me and my family to a detention camp? Hell no. But they would have no reason to do so to begin with.
Now, I've answered yours, so do me the same courtesy and answer mine: Do you believe the US government, most likely the Repubs of this New World Order of yours, will attack its own country in order to give it the excuse to call martial law? Do you believe 9/11 was planned and executed by the Bush Administration? If so, what do you think Bush would have to gain from imposing martial law? How would this benefit him and his accomplices?
Americas business is War.
Its been that way since the 60's.
This is how special interests get rich, Government grows its power, and American hegemony thrives.
Politics of Fear.
The CIA admitted they grossly overestimated the Soviet threat. The second string Team B'ers, even more so.
The Gulf of Tonkin never happened.
The War on Drugs is a joke - our Government ships in the Drugs.
Gulf War 1 - the Hitleresque infanticide fable, never happened. Saddam was reassured days before the invasion we wouldn't interfere in the Kuwaiti border dispute. Don't worry, we just want peace and friendship....
Milosevic was painted as the Balkans Hitler. Genocide not seen since the "Holocaust". MILLIONS DEAD. Never happened. Total lie.
Al Queda - the name of a CIA computer database that stored names of Mujahadeen fighters recruited by America to fight the Soviets.
The Ghastly Taliban - CIA funded and American allies right up 'til 911.
Saddam Bin Osama - brimming WMD's ready to fire on allies within minutes. Dangerous alliances with Al Queda. Mobile weapon labs, hundreds of tons of Niger yellow cake . On and on.
Total Bullshit. But this time, with the help of Neocons who funneled Iraqi Intel through their newly opened "Office of Special Plans" to make sure it was a passable fake (it wasn't).
And finally, Iran. Amackdeenejad is going to Nuke us all to high heaven if we don't invade
RIGHT NOW.
Wheres the evidence on Iran? The NIE says they got nothing. Absolutely sweet fuck-all. And Bush claims they're wrong. Based on what?
This is War Propoganda, Guy. Its as simple as that.
Do real threats exists? Sure.
Do radical Muslims plot harm against Americans? Absolutely.
But
NOWHERE near the scale, scope or reach our Government portrays these nomadic cave-dwellers to have.
The huge glaring hole in your Neocon road show -
CONSISTENCY.
If any Neocon really believed Al Queda (or Saddam or Iran) was such a monumental threat to this Country, the borders would have been shut down Sept 12th, 2001. The ports would have seen
TENS OF BILLIONS poured into rad and bio detection within months. Osama would be captured (not relegated to the memory hole). And that would be the end of it.
The idea of securing the Homeland is a fairy tale. Pure fiction backed by nothing but hot air and bald, creepy looking dudes who want to eat your Rights for lunch.
The War on Terror has nothing to do with keeping you or me safe. Its about Perpetual War, growing Government Power and enriching Lockheed and Exxon.
As for the other stuff.
You keep abreast of the towel heads.
I keep abreast of the Government.
Bush has given himself the authority to declare himself Dictator in the event of another attack.
Laws are in place to round up citizens. Camps are being built. Posse Commentatus is toast. Habeus Corpus is gone. Citizens jailed indefinitely at the Presidents or "anyone of his designates" sole discretion. No jury. No lawyer. No nothing. Talks of rounding up the 5th Column (Constitutionalists and Militias). Homegrown Terror Legislation tabled outlawing any "radical views that incite hatred against
THE GOVERNMENT". We're now told Al Queda has an army of white Caucasians numbering in the
THOUSANDS, without a lick of proof. Thank you General Hayden.
See where this is going?
So when you say "who knows?" after the next attack, I say Bullshit.
The writing is clearly on the wall. You're just in denial.
And they won't come for you because you're one of them?
You're not 'one of them'. They don't give two shits about you. See what happened in New Orleans? That wasn't a screw up.
You might not be on the list of Dissenters - after all, you're a good Republican. But you're a nobody. Just like everybody else.
If they do crackdown in Maui, and the Military happens to round up civilians to FEMA Camps, guess what? You're going whether you like it or not. Or two shots to the torso and one to the head when you resist. And then your kids get CPS'd, if and when they get out of FEMA camp. Thank Oddidoro for that.
Will Gov attack us to invoke Martial Law?
Yes. Bush, Hillary, McCain. Dont matter.
911 executed by criminal element in Bush Admin?
Absolutely.
Why? To create the catalyzing pearl harbor event PNAC called for to justify:
limitless, sustained defense spending
indefinite presence in the strategic middle east
protect israel.
grow government scope and power to ridiculous levels.
They like to play God.
And I haven't even touched the New World Order.
Do yourself a favor, go read Carol Quigely. I'm not joking.
